Expanded Commish Ohtani/Future 2-Way Player Options
So we realize you guys decided to make Ohtani 2 separate players. Many people are obviously upset about this (myself included). I understand that either choice will ruffle some feathers, so why not make a commissioner option to treat Ohtani as 1 or 2 players?
Commissioner Option 1: Treat him as 2 separate players, both take up a roster spot, etc. the way you guys said it would be this year.
Commissioner Option 2: Have him in the system as 2 players but he would act as 1 player. For example, under this option, pitcher Ohtani and hitter Ohtani only take up 1 total roster spot (maybe have the pitcher take up 1, hitter doesn't take up a roster spot), however both still move as 1 player (any trade must involved both, both go on DL at the same time, both dropped/added/drafted together).
Of course option 2 can be manually put in place by the commissioner, but this would require either Ohtani taking up 2 roster spots or the commissioner gives the team with Ohtani an extra roster and DL spot. However, this would need to be constantly monitored by the commissioner to ensure the spots are being used only for Ohtani. Also trades would make this option very complicated.
Overall, I think most agree the best Ohtani option is to keep him as 1, however this is a possible workaround that will give the users what they want (an option for 1 Ohtani) that may be easier from a coding and development standpoint.
I never understood why he counted as 2 players. There should not be an option. All 2-way way players should count as 1 player!
It would be cool to combine dual eligibility players, so only one exists ie only one Ohtani or Lorenzen, not a Util + SP or RP. Then, the manager would need to choose if they wanted to start that player as a hitter or pitcher that game. If they are filling a "Util" spot, then it counts as hitting, and if they're filling a SP/RP spot, then it counts as pitching.
Alternatively, albeit more difficult, you could select each pitcher every day if their hitting stats count w/ the default set to no. I don't like this idea as much b/c it's too much work.
THIS!!! Yahoo needs to realize that having two Ohtani's is immensely frustrating, especially for keeper league formats.
Please change this!!!
It appears Yahoo is ignoring the Ohtani problem this year. But the easiest way for them to do it now, is let leagues decide if they want to keep it the way it is now or Yahoo adds a third Ohtani that is both a UTIL and SP. Leagues that want two separate players can still do so but if your league wants one Ohtani then allow them that option.
Ohtani when on the DL or Injured list must take up two spots on our DL not one. In real life, he doesn't hit when he pitches. This year it appears he won't even pitch.
Fix it Yahoo. Other leagues have.
jai hall commented
The dl needs to stick for the pitcher till he pitches
jai hall commented
You can't take him off of dl as a pitcher of you don't give him the eligibility to be moved to a hitter . The pitcher is still on the shelf
Mark Ogden commented
And now that he's coming off the DL, the hare-brained "split Ohtani in two" plan gets worse!
If he was really 2 different players, one shouldn't affect the other. But if you own the pitcher, as most people do, you have to activate him when the hitter comes back. And give up a roster spot even though he might not pitch again this season.
Splitting the most exciting player to come along in decades was a lazy, ill-conceived idea that ruined his value and caused countless problems. When is Yahoo going to admit its mistake?
robert ellis commented
Think everyone is trying too hard to think of way just to get Ohtani in the hitter side of Yahoo Fantasy Baseball. There is a more simple solution to this whole thing. Give the commissioner the ability to turn on hitting stats for the all pitchers. With Ohtani/the good hitting pitchers in the NL/future 2-way player that are coming, this will allow you to get there batting statics into your daily/weekly stats be it good or bad.
mike moroco commented
simply put, i would like the ability to have Ohtani eligible at P & Util. he would only occupy one roster slot, but can only be put in 1 slot (P or Util) per day (or week)
It seems like it wouldn't be that difficult to have a single player who's eligible at both SP and Util. When he's in the SP spot you get his pitching stats, when he's in the Util spot you get his hitting. Plus he never hits and pitches in the same game anyway, so there's no downside.
Yahoo's non-response to Ohtani's two-way game has made what should be one of the most fun players in the league to own into someone who loses his unique value, and whose hitting half is barely rosterable. Even if Ohtani hits well when he gets the chance, his schedule keeps him resting often enough that it's not very simple to justify using a roster spot on him, and it shouldn't be that way. He's one guy in real life, and should be one here too.
A fix absolutely could be coded. That Yahoo went forward with a two player model just shows there was no will or creativity to find a solution. It makes fantasy baseball on Yahoo less fun.
Why not just have pitcher hitting stats count towards your overall hitting stats. I am sure this would be more realistic and consistent than only counting one or two (McKay could end up this way) players as special items?
sean murray commented
Leave it to Yahoo. If there is a way to ***** something up, they will find a way. Everybody knew Ohtani was a 2 way player. If you didn't, you were hiding under a rock. The only people against making him 1 player are the ones who didn't draft him. The fact that you waited for the season to start before you adressed the situation shows yahoo's incompetence. There are no valid reasons for making him 2 players.
I hate Yahoo Fantasy for many reasons but this is actually the best way. Why would you award a team that is able to draft him by giving them essentially TWO players in one.
Not only is having him as 2 separate players the def way to go, it is the most fair.
I think you need to focus on real improvements to Yahoo Fantasy not stupid requests like this.
How about allowing us to move multi position players during draft? How about adding the stats vs the pitcher they are facing back to the main profile page of each hitter like it used to be? How about basically doing some ANALYSIS of actual helpful changes you can make to improve a product that is turning into a dumpster.
Peter Cool commented
Having 1 Ohtani is a nightmare for coding and development standpoint.
Also from a playing standpoint. If you have it on your pitcher roster, but he bats that day, do you count the stats? Will you as an owner forget to switch him?
If you count a pitcher's batting stats (Ohtani), then you would have to count all the NL pitchers when they go at bat.
Everyone is so fixed on his duality as a player that they want 2 for 1. But you already have duality for NL pitchers and I'm guessing you would prefer to say when to count those battings stats and when not to.
Jim Pothast commented
They don't do this in football so why baseball?
Yahoo didn't have L. Thomas NYJ listed as a FB even though he scored points.
You don't have punters listed as Kickers when they have to step in.
Supposedly he is a pitcher so he should be listed as one until he gets a certain amount of AB's
Binh Phan commented
It's because they didn't want to mess up the DFS leagues which they make money off of where he would get the stats from both sides. hopefully they gift us the option to combine him
Joshua Peck commented
The ONLY way the splitting into two players makes ANY sense at all is if yahoo gives the commissioner the ability to expand the ONE team in the league to 26 roster spots instead of 25. That way, the team that drafts him can use the two spots but I wouldn't have to adjust the roster size for the rest of the league. That can't be done? Seems pretty simple to me--just let the commissioner decide the roster size for every team in the league and they can set Ohtani's team to 26.
Darryl Tucholski commented
Please make him one player, almost every other fantasy outlet is handling it that way to my knowledge. Our dynasty league has been here over a decade, we don't like the idea of having to implement special rules to handle the situation. Making him UTL/P seems very reasonable.
Brian Cassise commented
I also hate the setup with 2 separate players. At the very least change to one player and give the manager the option to start him one day in the SP and another day in UTIL. In a perfect system make all pitchers capable of starting in a UTIL hitting category, or create a hitting pitcher category slot that is optional, I remember wanting this when Zambrano was in the league because he killed the ball. Should be a fun new addition, hope Yahoo can get it right.