Scoring - Maximum Innings Pitched option for Head-to-head leagues
Requests to add maximum innings pitched requirements for H2H leagues. Currently, this feature isn't supported in H2H leagues.
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Sean Queen commented
One answer to this... stop playing 6 team leagues!
If you play in leagues with depth you dont have tjat issue.
Leagues with depth allow you to run up as many starts as you want. Ecen if you were a Vegas odds maker you will still find it hard to find quality starts in a 16+ team leagues.
Sorry guys but this is more about theleagues you are playing.
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Joe commented
i dont understand why yahoo feels its in the games' best interest to limit the amount of success a pitcher has. a pitcher goes into a game to do what? generate outs. Placing a limit on how many outs (3 outs = 1 IP) your pitching staff gets over the course of a season is a pretty dumb idea. it penalizes pitchers that go deeper in to games, as they take up more of your innings limit. ITS A CONTRADICTION to the game. OK my rant is over for today
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Joe commented
ive been trying to get this point across to yahoo for two years now. Standard on ESPN and other sites. i've been manually tracking games started for pitchers and its a ridiculous hassle.
1) make this an option
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2) in the "team log" page have "Games Started" a header so it can be easily tracked.
or
3) one of my league-mates is a developer and offered to add the code necessary to do it himself if you provide him a couple hours of access -
Matt Stupp commented
For example, my league (straight points) is set up for a 5-man rotation, with three relief spots. I'd like to set it up with a 162 Games Started limit and a ~400 Games limit. This would be much better than using the current 1375 Innings Limit.
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Matt Stupp commented
Using an Innings Limit is extremely crude. There NEEDS to be a "Games Started" and "Games" limit. Points generated by a pitcher who starts a game after the Games Started limit has been reached should be negated. Points generated by a pitcher who appears in a game after the Games limit has been reached should be negated. Similar to the way it's done with batters. Innings limits unfairly punish good pitchers and go against the spirit of the game.
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Dan commented
Percentage of stranded baserunners is an interesting idea, but it would only be appropriate for a "fantasy point" scoring system, where that stat was worth, say, 0.1 points and a homerun was worth way more than that.
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Dan commented
Remember, you do that, and you devalue the other stats. Do you want "scoreless relief appearances" being just as important as homeruns or wins? Plus the scoreless relief appearance is already included in lowering ERA.. a lot of these other categories create double counting
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Jeff Miller commented
I don't see how these would be overkill or redundant. Most of these stats are averaging stats as opposed to counting stats which are an improvement as far as pitching is concerned since week to week innings pitched is so volatile. Also, scoreless relief appearances reward overall performance opposed to a game situation that has noting to do with the pitcher actually accumulating the stat. What's wrong with giving leagues the additional options if they might be interested?
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j commented
overkill and redundant.
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Josh commented
Someone gets an extra 30 innings every year. Completely ruins the competitive race. Can you make it so the out points stop at the limit?
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Jim Timberlake commented
YES.. Games Played at 162 and Games Started at 162 is Perfect. And one reliever and you have the perfect game.
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Zac commented
Yes, you need a SP games started limit, otherwise teams will abuse this in daily H2H leagues. Even if you limit the number of transactions, they can still draft all pitching as bench slots and sub pitchers daily. I can't conceive how Yahoo does not already have this.
A max allowable roster position of certain positions would also remedy this situation.
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anthony commented
YAHOO PLEASE ALLOWS US TO SET STARTING PITCHING GAMES AND RELIEF PITCHING GAMES LIMIT!!!!!!!!
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Tim commented
As a member of cmohuskies21's league, I fully support the addition of these stats. They seem to be excellent indicators of a pitcher's overall skill, and also neatly complement stats that are already offered on the hitting side of things. If you have OPS for hitters it makes little sense not to have OPS against for pitchers. If there can only be a limited number of categories it would make sense to do away with one of the less useful or infrequently occurring categories (perfect games?) and replace it with OPS against.
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cmo21huskies commented
Our league would like to use OPS against as a pitching category in our root league. Michael Salfino writes great articles describing how OPS can be used as a barometer of pitcher performance. Our league is looking to set up a 6x6 roto league using the traditional 5x5 categories and adding OPS for hitters and OPS against for pitchers. We feel like this is a great format and if OPS is a great indicator of hitter performance we feel that OPS against for pitching should be an equally great indicator of pitcher performance.
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Crumdawg97 commented
Problem with max innings pitched and max starts (or other anti-streaming measures) is that they could inadvertently affect teams who just happen to be stacked with 2-start pitchers in a given week.
You're better off just including categories like HR allowed and losses to counteract any wins or K gains, and/or using weekly roster addition limits. No sense in creating collateral damage for non-streamers.
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Jonathan Kerr commented
Desperately needed for proper ratio scoring.
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Jonathan Kerr commented
Along these same lines, for H2H leagues, weekly start maximum.
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Anonymous commented
giving the option for this is a good idea. although all im hoping for is a split between innings pitched for starters and innings pitched for relievers. happens every year with someone in a points league exploiting the roster settlings by playing a closer that some how has SP eligibility and playing an extra closer. if it was a 162 inning limit, or whatever, for relievers, that wouldnt matter.
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Matt commented
Awesome suggestion, no more innings eating competition any more. Although the regulation doesn't seem fair to apply to RP, great idea for SP though.