Scoring - General feedback and requests
General feedback regarding scoring options and requests for new scoring options and categories.
-Goalie scoring (G, A, PIM)
-Faceoff win %
-Bonus points for hat trick
-Takeaways, Takeaway/Giveaway ratio
-PIM as a negative
-Average time on ice
-Special teams points (SH+PP points)
Noah S commented
We have always excluded PIM from our custom league specifically because of situations where a player gets ejected from a game (I'm looking at you Lucic) and the team owning that player wins the PIM point for the week. I agree that fights could be a positive stat, but nobody should ever be happy when their player is ejected for a game misconduct.
Side note: penalties drawn would be an awesome category
Mike Frank commented
I don't think that any shoot out points should be included. Even the NHL doesn't count them. If a game goes into the shootout at 0-0, both goalies get a shutout.
The goalie should definitely be able to score the other stat categories. Some teams have goalies that are good at handling the puck. They'll score some assists during the season. You probably wouldn't win or lose based on the few times this happens. But your player still earned those points, so there should be an option of allowing them to count.
Mike Ronald commented
Add a penalty plus/minus. They already track who takes/draws any given penalty. Then give the commissioners a choice for league scoring between: 1) Most PIMs 2) Least PIMs 3) Best PIM +/-
B B commented
You can. you set scoring to 'lowest amount wins' upon creation of the league. I believe this option is available for every category if my memory serves me correctly.
Goalie SOG, PPP, G, A and SHP will be meaningful about a dozen times a season across the entire NHL. Pretending they are factors you could use to pick a team is just plain stupid.
It would be as logical to add scoring stats for goalies as to add a Shut Out and Save category for forwards. There would never be a SO and every month or so a skater would get credit for an actual save.
And just as it happens in football when a WR makes a tackle he gets credit for it so there is no need to make it an official category for goalies. If a goalies scores a goal is goes on the board just like when a receiver tips a ball into a defenders hands and then tackles him he gets credit for a tackle.
This is a must have category in many private leagues...would replace face off lost by fw % really surprised this is not available already.
J Mosier commented
I agree. Making PIM a positive stat appears to be more hockey tradition than anything logical. Coming from a baseball and football fantasy background, this is equivalent to giving fantasy points to a D/ST for each penalty yard it accrues.
Bad idea. If this does go through I want saves for forwards and D-men when they make a save in the crease.
PIM's can hurt or help a team so I think if anything the option to make it negative would be best. I'm assuming the people who want fighting out of the game are the ones voting to change this? A fight can motivate your team more than anything and certain penalties are considered "good" penalties to take away scoring chances and whatnot so I think it can easily go both ways.
James Grantham commented
I agree to an extent. I like the 10 categories. Maybe, if goalies were not limited to just their four stats. Instead of having each player limited to 6 or 4 stats, have your team accumulate all 10 stats (if applicaple. Skaters don't get wins, SO, SV%, GAA). I would be upset if i came 1 assist short for the week's matchup and my goalie had one and it didn't count.
Ryan Leung commented
I totally agree with this. And also they should give goalies Overtime Loss Points.
Connor McDivitt commented
A game winning goal has been a stat that has been kept throughout the history of hockey. I can agree with gaining an extra point if the game winning goal was obtained in overtime, however I don't agree with your statement that the actual goal that won the game (the third goal scored in a 6-2 win) is something a player shouldn't get credit for
Jeremy Widerman commented
That's it. STG (Shootout Goals)
Ze Renato commented
Why not make it available as an option? Up to any commish to decide whether they use it or not, eh?
Brian Palcko commented
Terrible idea. Should players get credit for saves too when they lie down in front of the net? Assists and PIM's aren't on the goalie stat page so obviously they're rare and not worth keeping track of.
dare bear commented
Great question!!! I was also wondering why Goligoski didn't get credit for Dallas' win and shutout, because he was on my roster for the night so why would I not get any points he accumulates?
Go to scoring & settings, scroll to the bottom where it reads "Goaltenders Stat Categories." Are assists listed among the categories that count for goalies? No.
That's why it didn't count, moron.
brian goulder commented
I agree, makes no sense at all
dan mcgraw commented
I like it, could do Gordie Howe Hat tricks too. Enough of them happen each year that a league could decide to add a bonus for it. Already happens for shut-outs.
I disagree with the premise. Goalies can score Gs As etc, but they rarely do and there's so much variance in it. Kickers can score TDs and 2pt conversions, etc, but they don't get credit for them in fantasy football. This is no different.