Now the photos are not uploading
Can you please fix this. It says they loaded but they don't load into the groups.
Commenting to Deborah: Quite a few comments have been made about Yahoo's slide once they went to "neo"...maybe that was the 2011 time frame you mentioned. I WILL say that over the years Yahoo groups storage for photos dramatically increased to 1 gig and also the photos album reorder feature worked reasonably well after for years hardly ever working. However, the last couple of years have been pretty much a disaster. I would say a majority of the last 2 years, it wasn't working properly more than it when it did...I'm talking Photos section. To be honest, I load stuff in Files section and I honestly can't remember that ever not working.
Out with a whimper. I rushed to get items up on 28.10, the advertised last date for accepting input. 10 hours later, yahell still hasn't posted them anywhere (web or direct). The obvious winner is groups-io. Several of the groups to which I subscribe had gone already; more went today. Mine goes soon. Just what yahell management wanted, but we have no choice if we want to preserve our accumulated knowledge for the future. After years in paper publishing, I can paraphrase the de Beers ad: 'Diamonds are forever'. So, for knowledge 'Paper is forever'. I have been through 5.5 in and 3.25 disks which are now useless; cd & dvd which fail; external hard drives not yet failing; large memory sticks which have replaced them. I won't use cloud storage: too many remote sites have gone down. Yahell was preceded by photobucket and another photo site. Google somehow took over usenet (which was open platform) and claimed it as its own.
In 50 years time, my hobby groups will know more about the hobby 100 years before then (before internet) than 50 years before then (ie now).
What do yahell managers think that they will be doing after destroying this product? Is there anything left to justify their employment?
Deborah Terreson commented
Commenting to Tom.. For sure the storage isn't free, but the costs of floating e-mail messages with attachments through the Groups' mailservers is going to be more than Yahoo realizes., The main reason I would just upload one of my digital paintings and then notify the group WAS the mailserver costs of me sending 4 and 5 MB photos to the 2,000+ members on my list.
My more salient thought is that they strip everything out and re-introduce storage and the rest to the groups as services that are paid for.. which I don't necessarily object to. The whole framework, however has been a bodge since 2004 when they left the old e-groups template and since 2011, it's been in freefall.
WORKING 100% BETTER, THANK YOU YAHOO STAFF.
Today, yahell has reverted to an older scare tactic: this morning's posts are delayed by 3 h already, so I have no idea whether photos worked today or if they didn't.
Yes, io has a photos section, with a searchbox (which I have yet to use with success).
I get to photos by using a search term, and bringing up the relevant message and the attached photo. That is the facebook method, and relies on the original poster providing useful key terms. When they don't , content isn't lost; it just can't be found. Facebook also has a quota: new posts (and photos) will bump the oldest ones out. io searches on keywords in the header and in the body.
io premium is AUD 20 per month, of 220 per year. The main difference: premium allows 10 GB storage; free is 1 GB. For my small site, I am not happy with paying just to share my material with others, but that is the only way to salvage the archive. For my size of posting, free is about 4000 photos. I'll do some more homework.
Like all 'free groups', the cost is covered by advertising. In today's world, photos are essential. Can you imagine a newspaper without them? Revert from tv to radio?
If the photos are scrapped, then the text becomes useless. The last remnants of a user base will defect. Facebook is even more monstrous and arrogant and vicious, but does offer the services which people want.
It is becoming pretty obvious what the real problem with Yahoo groups was/is. I always said it was one of 2 things 1) incompetent programmers 2) issue with Yahoo accessing their storage area which is located at xa.ying.com Pretty clear to me that magically the problems got fixed when Yahoo announced long term, they were basically closing down the photos functionality part of the group. That leads me to the obvious conclusion that Yahoo doesn't want to pay for storage area on external servers which affects photos section for example but doesn't affect email functionality for example which they are keeping. It also wouldn't affect email usage WITH attachments. Bottom line is that is just another example of the old adage "you get what you pay for". Yahoo groups are free...Yahoo having to provide server storage of photos is NOT free. Explains it all!
does Group.io offer Photo Albums?
The previous post was too long. I haven't tried to do this yet.
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Ups and downs.
Working for nearly a week, have been reposting all photos back to 1 October (when they failed to get to direct email; web had been erratic from the start of June).
If I had no more than 20 per post, they appeared in both photos and attachments.
I had to split a 34 in a 20 and then a 14.
Today, the failure returned: a 20 came through as 17 to the web, and 17 to direct.
I reposted the 3. Direct got them; web didn't.
Groups-io promises to retrieve all content and all members, in yahell format, but for a premium fee for one year, then the prospect of going free. I haven't seen what google offers.
Most of my former groups chose io and not google.
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THANKS FOR FIXING....MUCH BETTER
To anonymous "Yahell fixed the photos just so that it could close down the functionality. That is evidence that there has been no technical problem, just management bastardry." I noticed the same thing! This is the best Yahoo groups has worked in MONTHS...coincidence...I think not!
To anonymous: "I am told by those who defected to googlegroups and groups-io last year that there is a method of transferring all photos and messages in bulk, giving the impression that they had been posted there originally. I have found no evidence that there is anything AFTER the migration to neo that works. For sure, there was software out there to download photos and files from Yahoo BEFORE the neo change. If you find out differently, please post the software link, but even one software site said that after the neo change,they couldn't get their script to work anymore
to m.v. - Yeah I received my download notification and you of course were correct...they send a small zip file which even when expanded is still a few small files...no photos obviously...no file section obviously, etc. As you said before, pretty much worthless
it took me 1 hour to save 80 photos. The download does not work. Mostly you get an error message: the server does not understand.......
I have about 75000 photos, lost forever......
Only way I found: downloading the tumbnails buy using Firefox Media search.
Yahell fixed the photos just so that it could close down the functionality. That is evidence that there has been no technical problem, just management bastardry.
Instead of closing, why not sell to a management which cares, and let your advertisers switch allegiance too?
Closing yahell is like Library of Congress sending all items to a big bonfire. The repository of accumulated knowledge is lost.
I am told by those who defected to googlegroups and groups-io last year that there is a method of transferring all photos and messages in bulk, giving the impression that they had been posted there originally, and providing continuing archiving and searching.
Still unclear: what do those who stay on in private groups by invitation get? Messages, one by one. Photos? Then everyone has to store everything for archiving, instead of accessing as the need arises.
I don't know the definition of data but I thought it would be everything from the group site. But I'm not surprised "Photos and files can be saved right from the Yahoo Groups site, or you can download your data from the Privacy Dashboard. "
So in other words, you must have to single shot download photos and files just like you could to any time in the past (when it was working). So if you have 5000 photos, you would have to click the download arrow 5000 times after moving to each photo individually. Hardly practical! Yahell strikes again!
what a big fake - you get your DATA NOT your Photos and files. Its a 576kb file. Hey yahoo - give me my photos
works fine - what a surprise.....
Go to mydashboard - there you have the opportunity to claim a download for your photos. They say, that you get your downloadlink within 30 days. I got mine today (after 1 day). Will try it this evening. Its a 2.9 GB file.
WORKING MUCH BETTER TODAY.......THANKS
Let's move on from the Yahoo decision...it ain't going to change....period! So my question is IN THE PAST, there was free software that could download massive numbers of photos/albums easily. My understanding is after the neo change, there is no such software. Correct me on this if there is.
First- Yahoo! is owned by Verizon Media. https://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2016/07/25/yahoo-sells-to-verizon-for-5-billion-marissa-mayer/#7daa6e57450f
Second - 2013 - Yahoo bought Tumblr and it was sold to Verizon in 2017 and changes to similar changes as they want to do on Yahoo, cca 100mio client left Tumblr but they didn't come to Verizon so it was announced sale to WordPress in August 2019. https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/12/20802639/tumblr-verizon-sold-wordpress-blogging-yahoo-adult-content
Third - Flickr was sold to Verizon and Verizon sold it to SmugMug in 2018