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Request to Flickr: set the default for "Downloading" and "Share" to DISabled

At this moment "downloading" on the All Sizes page is by default set to *enabled* (from our Settings: *anyone*)
This is also the case for the Share feature in our Settings.

In my opinion this gives the wrong message; the interpretation that "free to download" equals "Free to use" is an easy step.
Same with Sharing: why would you be allowed to slap an image just anywhere you like, without taking into consideration that the photographer may not endorse that particular blog or site ?

Flickr could be an innovator, curbing this if-it's-on-the-net-it-is-free-to-take mentality by turning the default around: no, you cannot just take it, unless the photographer makes the *conscious decision* to allow others to download/share their stuff with all the consequences that may bring.

Setting the default to allow downloading Flickr is basically saying "what is yours is others' too" and with a view to All Rights Reserved images that is a misconception.

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      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Images on Google up to 1024 X 1024 are made fully right click downloadable without going back to the original source and if the image is mined from another persons gallery the site of origin and copyright holder will never be seen.ARR NO THIRD PARTY unless the stream owner choses a particular no downloading should mean just that.Better and actual options are almost a necessity. .

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Making "sharing" off by default makes sense to me, as should "download" be off by default.
        However, the sharing seems much less threatening, as I believe it would not be possible to capture and save a full quality image from sharing.
        However, from the perspective that a user should have to make the conscious decision to enable either feature, it makes good sense and is the ethical way for the software/UI to function.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        It not only would provide stream protection but allow the stream owner to know where his work is being seen.It would allow you to choose a site that is reputable. If a site fails Flickr standards or stream owner standards then you withdraw from the site..Very similar to the groups situation.

      • Saffron BlazeSaffron Blaze commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I certainly support the notion of informed consent. In its implementation it should made clear that when enabling downloading that additional permission to download for personal use is not required. All uses beyond simple personal may require explicit permission of the copyright holder.

      • Mabel AmberMabel Amber commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        In fact you could go much further:

        Simply abolish the possibility of downloading altogether - only after asking the photographer, the latter, if they want to meet with the request, can go into their switch room and set the required size to "downloadable"

        An exception should be made for images carrying a CC-license.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I believe that this measure would allow Flickr users to share photos in the way that most users intend, as in let others see them, and would provide some protection. It would also benefit new users who might not have had the knowledge to make an informed decision of which downloading or sharing options might be most appropriate.

        Where others wish to use photos through the Flickr platform the owner of the photo should be asked if they agree to this or not.

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