This is huge. I have users quitting yahoo completely at this stage. Posts made online or via email to yahoo groups are disappearing. I made an ADMIN note to the group 5 days ago about it ands that hasn't shown up. I made another later that did show.
Definitely keep groups running, even if it is sold, sell it to one who will keep it going!
Hi, there is only one fix for this. You have to install and AD Block. It won't be perfect. People have been telling them about this for a very long time but they just do not 'get it' that their refreshing the ad also makes the screen jump back to the top making it impossible to scroll.
I assume they get extra revenue for showing the ad, but they are working against themselves because it makes the use of the system impossible so we add an ad blocker and that drives the revenue down even further but we can't use the yahoo groups without one any more.
The only reply from Yahoo on this was they were unable to replicate it. The tester probably used a small test group with 10-20 total posts and likely, they had an ad blocker in use. They never replied to a query on either aspect.
At least now you have a work around but it damages them making money. Oh well, if they won't listen to us, maybe they don't care about making money? I kinda miss some of the ads which were interesting and I used to click on some to see more. Now, I don't get them.
We have a downward spiral of them making money over people having no choice but to ad-block because they do not get the issue. If they fix it, I will take my ad-block back off my system.
On the page flipping, Yahell doesn't care that they are losing people to facebook and even ones devolving to usenet groups over it. It's been going on for well over a year with NOT reply from them that they are even aware of it.
I don't mind the ads. I mind that they are set to flip the screen back up to the top. You can no longer read a group online unless it has a tiny posting per day. What Yahell doesn't realize is now, due to not listening to us, they get just that. Tiny groups with almost no posts.
Hi Anonymous, No, Yahoo doesn't care at all. This is obvious based on their total lack of response to this issue. One main reason why people liked (note past tense) was the ability to properly catch up on older messages or search them with a scroll.
This I no longer possible and they do not care. They advertise and archive that no longer functions. The advertisers are the ones really losing out as they pay for space that is no longer being used because of this simple bad coding job. But Yahoo, doesn't care.
It is possible an Adblock utility may fix it but then Yahoo gets no money. It all yahoogroup users adblock, then they have less reason to support yahoogroups which is already pretty pathetically low in support as based on this issue being 1 year old.
I can't believe this isn't fixed yet. Every time the ad to the right refreshes, it scrolls you to the top. It is impossible to read a group that gets more than 25 messages a day because you can't get to the bottom at all.
Bubba, it used to work fine. This intensely IRRITATING bug has been there about 4 months now with no sign of resolution.
Agreed. I suspect they are testing this one with a tiny group with 5 or 6 messages so have no clue.
Yahoo, test this with a large group with at least 500 messages and try to scroll through. Do NOT have some special 'ad blocker' on the test group but let Yahoo do it's normal thing and you will see what happens as you try to scroll through messages.
I have an old established group and have been trying to pull some archives from 2004. It's not possible.
I get the same. It is quite destructive to any normal reading pattern a person would use. Active groups can have 50 posts a day to read though but as they refresh the ad (that's what it seems like) they bring you back to the top.
BTW this is also a disability access issue. Screen reader software also restarts at the top and those with mobility impairments who are slower at the keyboard can not get past it to read messages online. You have lot of disabled folks who are on limited income and use computers at the library for reading their groups. This is hampering them.
Agreed. I do not mind if there is a secondary 'suggestion; that splits it out but most searches are based on an explicit email address with no spaces. Example: I am looking for pookybear19 NOT pooky bear 19.
This 'enhancement' should search FIRST for what is entered, then provide a suggestion for alternatives if I typed something.
Yahoo has been reviewing ways to improve the security of our member accounts, eliminate abuse and reduce the time needed to recover a password. Mobile is a secure way to solve all 3 of these issues.
We will never use mobile numbers for anything other than verification purposes and share this personal data with other companies.
We’re currently testing our registration page and will provide updates.
I completely agree Nedra. It's not only blatant age discrimination, here's another angle. I have a support group with blind members. Now they can't get accounts on yahoo without borrowing a sighted person's cell phone for use to enter. How many blind people are texters? How many blind people use a smartphone?
Morgan, the vote is to not require them.
Yahoo, if you think we will accept that requiring a cell phone be entered in your system to ensure our security is going to work, you've not paid any attention to even the most BASIC security rules.
It doesn't matter anymore that you 'say' you will never use it for other than verification purposes. You want it in our database and that means a hacker potentially defeat your defenses which has happened before.
Also your advertisers presumably would prefer a large base of people with disposable income to buy things. That is the older (40-60 age group) base who often do not have a cell phone and use a landline. And what about folks outside a major city where cell service is not common at all?
This change will only cost you customers.
Yahoo, you have NOT improved security by requiring additional information such as a cell phone. You have added to the danger if your list gets out due to GPS technology and potential abuse of a members actual physical location.
A second email address is all you need. You do not need to have my cell number at all. If I wish to *volunteer* it because I want that added method, it should be my choice, not an insecure requirement.
Rover, correct. A spammer can setup their own group (or a spiteful person) and then automatically email any address they enter. Really bad security. It needs to stay as it is where you have to validate the additional group.