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    Anonymous commented  · 

    No improvement. 12/24 to the web; messy delivery to direct email, but it does all get through.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Another typical day: 0/21 and 1/4. People are giving up posting; giving up joining; giving up viewing; and now giving up providing feedback to a management which is clearly determined to ignore it in a desperate effort to get rid of us all.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    As before re photos: 50% at best to the web, but sometimes zero; everything to direct email, with two techniques: a clickable set and a downloadable set.
    Another hazard: posted text gets cut off at 64 kB on the web, but goes through to direct email.
    Posting the second half gets the text to the web, but direct email people now get it twice.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Still hopelessly erratic and inadequate.
    Today group A got 0/39 on the web, but 39/39 with proper thumbnails to direct email.
    Later, group A got 0/3 on the web; direct email hasn't arrived yet. Group B got 2/3 of the same email.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The chaos has stayed constant.
    The web gets half of what is posted (occasionally zero). Direct email gets those as clickable links, without a thumbnail image.
    Direct email gets the others as a downloadable zip file, and has thumbnail images.
    The web has no access to those at all, even though they are stored at yahell.
    That should be an easy fix, but management refuses to do it.
    The only people using yahell are those who fell for the publicity campaign years ago.
    There is no incentive for any newcomer to join.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    No improvement: 10/20 got through to the web. 10/20 got through to individual email as clickable links without images; a message directs the recipient to an automatic album on the web.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Yahell has switched yet again.
    Some photos go through to the web. That then changes what goes to direct mail people. Those that went to the web show as blank clickable items; those which didn't go to the web have proper icons, to be downloaded as a zip file.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Latest: The web gets nothing, 0/6, 0/23, 0/29, 0/14, but also a 2/3.
    Direct email gets everything, now with proper thumbnails and the whole lot have to be downloaded as a zip file. Hence, all are held on the yahell server, and could be shown on the web version.
    Yesterday, sending via yahell mail was just as much a disaster. It has had its own descent: slow, and not showing addresses properly, only via an automatic label, which is often wrong. Yesterday it wouldn't attach photos. Yahell groups insist that I post via the yahell account and not via my main one.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The same continuous problem. Direct email seems to get everything, but they come in two ways.
    The web version gets only half of the photos.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Yahell continues to lurch. The status of 2 weeks ago has returned.
    Group A: 0/2 photos on the web or direct.
    Group B: 7/15 photos got to the web, 6 with proper thumbnails; one with a blank thumbnail. All 7 are sitting in the attachments section, which isn't an easy place to find, has it is hidden and a 'more' pull down, unlike photos and files.
    Direct people got the other 8 as clickable thumbnails, download as zip file, and they got blank links to the 7 at attachments (but at least with the file names, even though not the photo).
    This split is quite random, and quite infuriating. How can programmers we so incompetent?
    The new problem has persisted: a 2-4 h delay in transmission.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Static for 3 days. Nothing gets to the web, but everything gets to direct email, with proper thumbnails. The web version is now on a 2 h delay to infuriate us further and force us out.
    The direct people get downloads via: dl-mail.ymail.com, which is not a site which anyone can access directly. Since direct can get there, so could the web. Yahell is storing the photos, and saves nothing by blocking web upload and viewing.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Yahell has held constant for three days: the web version doesn't show any photos, and they are not in the photos section or the files section or the attachments section. The web has also be truncated text at 64 kB, requiring the sending of a section.
    Direct email people get all of the thumbnails ready to download. Hence they are being stored somewhere, and the web version should access the same links. Direct email people get the full text, not truncated.
    The web version is needed for archiving for new members and for research.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Today's main post went with 30 photos. Zero got through to the web, not even as faulty links. All 30 got to direct email, as working thumbnails and links. Because the text had gone over 64 kB (a low limit), it was truncated. I sent the balance of the text as a second section, still with the photos. Still zero to the web, and still all 30 to direct email. Since email is only links, the originals are stored at yahell, and so should be displayed. Nothing is gained by not doing so. Another fault recurred today: each post took over an hour to appear at the web.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    As bad as ever. Web version: thought it was showing 8/15, but only 3 had content. Direct thought that it got 15/15, but only 8 are accessible.
    To other groups, assorted luck: 0/2 web, but 2/2 direct.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Zero improvement.
    At best, groups get 50 % of photos in a post, but only a couple are working links; the rest are black-cross blanks. Equally, groups get zero.
    At best,. direct mail gets 100% of photos in a post, but only 50% are working links.
    Every other failure has come good, and then it is a rush to repost everything for weeks, and yahell ends up using more storage, not less.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Today, no improvement. My main email went out with 17 photos.
    The web version showed eight thumbnails: one with an image; seven white. Those seven lead nowhere, to only 1/17 got through.
    Direct email got nine proper clickable thumbnails, which means that the full size versions are stored at yahell, but the web version doesn't see them. Direct also got 8 thumbnails to an 'automatic album on this topic'. One worked; the other seven led to an error message.

    Attachment(s) from xxxxxx | View attachments on the web
    8 of 8 Photo(s)
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    190718Th-MelbourneExpress-bus.kills.pedestrian.jpg
    190719F-Melbourne'HeraldSun'-numberplates..jpg
    190719F-Melbourne'HeraldSun'-numberplates.jpg
    190719F-Melbourne'HeraldSun'-street.parking.jpg
    190719F-Melbourne'HeraldSun'-street.parking.jpg
    190719F-Melbourne'Age'-energy-coal.jpg
    190719F-Melbourne'Age'-energy-coal.jpg
    190719F-Melbourne'Age'-RNZAF_B757-b.jpg
    190719F-Melbourne'Age'-RNZAF_B757-b.jpg
    190719F-Melbourne'Age'-RNZAF_B757-a.jpg
    190719F-Melbourne'Age'-RNZAF_B757-a.jpg
    190719F-MetroTwitter-Reservoir-ss.jpg
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    190719F-MelbourneExpress-GrandPrix.jpg
    190719F-MelbourneExpress-GrandPrix.jpg
    Posted by:xxxxxxx
    Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (1)
    Check out the automatic photo album with 8 photo(s) from this topic.
    190719F-MetroTwitter-Reservoir-ss.jpg 190719F-Melbourne'HeraldSun'-street.parking.jpg 190719F-Melbourne'Age'-RNZAF_B757-b.jpg 190719F-Melbourne'Age'-RNZAF_B757-a.jpg 190719F-Melbourne'Age'-energy-coal.jpg

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Still random and erratic. Today, the web got 0/2, 0/1, 0/25, 0/27, but one group got 3/6 with proper clickable thumbnails.
    Direct email gets either 100% as proper clickable links, or 50% proper links and 50% blank ones, but today's blanks did download. The difference is that one lot is obtained one by one by clicking; the other lot is downloaded as a single zip file.
    The whole lot has to be stored at yahell, so there is not gain by bastardising the web version.
    This has to be malice and not incompetence. On the first round, management held off for months, not just weeks.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    It is impossible to understand how the programmers can be so incompetent. Tonight the first post got zero to the web, but a full 27 proper thumbnails to direct email. Minutes later, the second division to the same group got what looked like 12/19 to the web, but only two were proper thumbnails, and the ten blanks led to nothing when clicked. The direct email people dropped to 9 proper thumbnails, and 10 blank ones, but they at least downloaded something. Don't let yahell anywhere near autonomous cars of Boeing aeroplanes. The lingering suspicion is that management is goading everyone to follow Louise and get out.
    The web version is important for archiving, and for new members. Direct email is more work for the member.
    Meanwhile, yahell mail has also got reduced capability.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Yahell just went backwards after a faltering half return to normality. Today, so far: 0/1 and 0/19.
    As ever, no announcement at all from arrogant management.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Today: 11/20, 2/3, 2/3. No message from management.
    There has been a steady desertion from yahell, and conceivably that is what management wants. The issue can't be simply complete incompetence. So far I can't pick which does the better job: google or io. Farcebook has its own design faults and management arrogance.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    15/18, 1/1, 1/1, 1/2, 20/35, 3/4.
    The email software states that I can attach up to 25 MB, and I'm not going over 10 MB.
    The 35 was strange. 20 got through to the group. Direct email got 29 as thumbnails (a mix of ones with an image, and blanks) and six as a downloadable zip file. I haven't checked to see if that was the full 35, or if there was an overlap and still something missing.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Yahell is worse than playing Russian Roulette. Today's main post: 15/18 got through to the web version. Playing the three-shell trick, direct email people got 5/18 as proper thumbnails; 10/18 as blank thumbnails; 3/18 as an offer to download as a zip file, which does mean that they are held at yahell, but not displayed there.
    Yesterday I got a 1/1 and a 0/2 after the main post.
    This feedback requires a fresh sign in with yahoo, even though I am logged in already. When I do reach send, it cranks away endlessly. Yahell mail on Chrome does that too: it has been sent, but doesn't show that.
    Christopher: you can use only 3 votes in any one thread, not the whole lot.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Only 18/22 got through today, and they get split between photos and files, and some show and some don't, and direct-mail people get a few attached, and more as links, but not the whole 22.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Not out of the woods yet. 7/7 went through with one post, but only 20/27 with the next, and some of those were blank white, not proper thumbnails. I sent 11 next (the missing seven plus the blanks). 9 got through. Meanwhile direct mail people are getting a split: some show, and are in the groups's photos section. Others are blank links, and they are in the files section. I am not yet confident to repost everything which has been mucked up for a month.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The problem isn't fixed. The clock has been turned back 2 weeks, but not 4 weeks.
    This afternoon, only one of two photos got through to direct email, so I checked: one of two had got through the web. 50% beats 0%, but we need 100%.
    Defecting to farcebook has problems: it is just as arrogant and stonewall as yahell.
    It has a punk search engine, and an archive quota (all most groups don't reach the limit).

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The photo failure started at the beginning of June.
    Stage 1 was that only 50% of the photos in any post appeared on yahell, and only 50% went through to direct email people.
    Stage 2 was that none show on yahell, but all go through to direct email.
    The stupidity is that the email people get thumbnails, with downloadable links. That means that the photo is stored at yahell, so not showing them on the web version is not saving management any storage money.
    I am continuing to post for the benefit of the direct brigade, but I do feel like a sewerage farm: just going through the motions.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The fault continues. 0/30 on my digest today. They don't show on the web, or in the files section, or in the photos section. Members on direct email get the 30 thumbnails, with the ability to download them. They have to be downloading from somewhere. They must be buried at the website, not to viewed. That hints at management malice ahead of programmer incompetence.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    As at Sun.6.7, the fault has not been fixed. Having the photos is why people subscribe to yahoo groups. Management is certainly succeeding in scaring them away in droves. Imagine any fast-food joint removing hamburgers and chicken items from the menu.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The disaster continues. Yahell is waiting for the B737 Max to be airworthy again before doing anything. That could be because both outsourced to the same cheap Indian contractor.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    All photos are going through to recipients of individual emails. They are not showing on the web, and they are not being kept in either the photo archive or the files section. Two of my groups have been abandoned by posters: no traffic for 7 days in either. Two others have dwindled to one post per day. I doubt that yahell will do anything, but it is interesting watching this issue climbing the ranks of hot issues for yahell to address: now up to 28th. In the words of Dean Martin: 'keep those complaints rolling in folks'. Unfortunately, management offers only one flag 'inappropriate', it should have a flag 'highly appropriate', as does facebook. This thread would then rocket.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    As with my earlier posts. All photos are going through to those on direct email, but they are not appearing on the web and are not being archived. Yahell really wants us to defect to facebook, io or google. Toss in problems with yahell mail (cranking uselessly after a send) and with this feedback (cranking uselessly after a post). It really does seem that the yahell programming team was the one commissioned by Boeing for the 737 Max software 'upgrade'.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Today's finds. Photos are going through to those on direct email, but are not being held on the web version. They can't be viewed, and can't be downloaded later. That has turned the clock back a long way. Another of my yahell groups has abandoned hope. It has switched to -io, but had kept yahell for archival reasons, without locking off fresh posting. Now it has locked off fresh posting, and tough luck for the people who hadn't switched already. Of course, that is what yahell management wants. The more who defect, the easier life will be for management.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    At lunch: glimmerings of success, with 1/1, 2/2 and 1/1. With the main batch, total failure: 0/25, 0/4, 0/5.
    As ever, this feedback panel cranks away for every after 'post' is pressed. The message has been posted, but the page doesn't inform.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The latest disaster: Gone from 50% delivery to zero. No photos from today have shown at all.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Yahell is getting worse. 7/19 photos got through today, not even 50%.
    As noted before, even this feedback section is a disaster. Even after the message has been uploaded, the rotating emblem keeps going forever. It takes nerves of steel to close the window.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The failure that keeps on failing. 7/15 got through yesterday; 9/18 today. No fix, no apology, no message re progress. My few surviving groups are now posting 'yahoo is dead; switch'.
    That, of course, is what yahell management wants.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Photos still aren't uploading: 9/15 and 2/4 today. There is still no message from management, and not eta for a fix.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The continuing saga, 3/8 and similar so far today.
    Yahell mail is as bad, with a refusal to send one of the posts because it 'looked like spam' and had only links. It had one link. It was a list of 20 worldwide abandoned locations. Some were in countries which USA doesn't like. I suspect that it was caught by a political-correctness vocabulary trap, and will try to make the time to prove that. The rest of the world are not states 51-257. Yahell should show greater awareness of what lies beyond its geographical boundaries.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    0/1 and 12/25 yesterday, and then a new fault. Hitherto, posts above 64 kB were truncated. Now they don't post at all.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The fault is ongoing, with no fix from management, no apology, and not even a progress report.
    Transmission today: 0/1, 8/15, 3/6, 4/8. It is too time consuming to see which ones are missed, then repost them, then do the same for half of half. I am waiting for a fix, and them am reposting 2 weeks of daily posts to three groups. Those on googlegroups and groups-io are receiving.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    This forum is for you to make product suggestions and provide thoughtful feedback. We’re always trying to improve our products and we can use the most popular feedback to make a positive change!
    I don't know what product you have used, or what feedback has been more popular than this one.
    I think that getting photos to work would be a positive change: so do lots of others. On today's first session, it looked as if 8/14 got through, but only 3 showed as photos; 5 were blank frames.
    On today's second session, 6/12 got through, but at least all 6 showed. This feedback forum in its own right is a failure. After pressing 'post comment' it cranks away showing 'sending' until the computer gets turned off at midnight. In reality, the message has been posted, but your lack of programming skill suggests that it hasn't.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    8/14 on the first test of the day. How can this be only 31st ranked? It should be top.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Zero improvement in over a week: 4/7 to one group, 15/30 to another, 1/1 to another.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    As I logged in this morning, I got this perpetual reminder of Yahoo's arrogance:
    'We've improved your Yahoo Groups experience. See what's new!'.
    Always go for the big lie. In reality: 'We've destroyed your experience'.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    As the evening progresses: 7/16 and 5/10. Does yahell have 144 programmers (gross incompetence)?

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The disaster persists: only one of two photos got through tonight to my first group; I have yet to experiment with the other groups. Insult over injury; salt in the wound: 'This forum is for you to make product suggestions and provide thoughtful feedback. We’re always trying to improve our products'. Total damage-control spin.
    Why not be upfront and state: 'we are trying to force you to switch to facebook'? It is equally disastrous.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Today's yahell: continuing failure with groups and mail
    To four groups, the transmission rates of photos were: 8/15, 3/5, 2/5, 0/1.
    As well, even posting to this feedback forum, after pressing 'send', it cranks away forever showing 'sending'. It takes ice-cold calm to move on and hope that the message has been sent. The same cranking forever occurs with yahell mail. How can something which worked for years not work any more?

    Anonymous commented  · 

    I have built up a pattern of experience. Despite the statement, yahell groups won't load the advertised megabytes of photos, or anywhere near it. The current problem is that it won't load more than 20/20 when working, and loads only half the photos during the current failure. Tonight I had 9/19 and 3/6. Yesterday I pushed to the limit. 10/20, then 5/10, then 2/5, then 1/2, then 0/1.
    When/if the fault is fixed (typically 1-2 weeks), I have to send again, cluttering the groups and the individual emails, and taking me twice as much time, so I do half as much research work and answering of questions. A parallel fault is that text messages get cut at 64 kb. I often have to send my daily digest as two or three posts.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    This latest disaster continues. It took eight posts to get all 36 photos through tonight.
    It is hard to see how any programming team could be so incompetent so often. It just has to be management malice to scare us to facebook, but that arrogant multinational is just as incompetent.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Having the groups work would be an improvement. After a few good days, operation has gone back by 2 weeks. Formerly, I could attach over 30 photos (within a size limit), and all would go through. From 2 weeks ago, anything over 20 wouldn't transmit. Today has gone backwards:
    First posting: 8/15 got through.
    Second: 3/7 got through.
    Third: 2/4.
    Fourth: 1/2
    Fifth 0/1.
    I am posting this feedback before checking the sixth.
    Meanwhile, yahell has destroyed its mail function too: more cumbersome, particularly when adding and deleting photos.
    We are fortunate that your programmers haven't been headhunted for driverless cars or for Boeing Max 737 projects.
    As ever, management never says anything. Is it incompetence? Is it malice? Did the USA president built a wall around your main computer centre, and you are running off a backup?

    Anonymous commented  · 

    After 8 days of complete disaster, it is now slightly improved. I am having to repost 8 days of posting to 3 groups. No problems with groups-io or google groups, just yahell.
    Today I reposted one with 17 photos. Those on direct email got just ten, and just blank black crosses. They have to click to go the website attachments section just to view. They are told that all are at the attachments section for this topic: I can't count them. They do seem to be in the photos section, and twice: the original and the repeat. All 17 show on the web version of the post. That seems to have a new restriction. Yesterday, only 20 out of 24 showed. Yet again, even this feedback form doesn't work properly. It wants me to sign in: I am signed in, which is how I did this detective work.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Text is now going through, but photos aren't reaching the websites. One where I switched to direct email as an experiment had only 9/20 come through.
    I also tried the same post to one group which has both yahell and groups-io: the yahell text got through, and 3/8 photos showed as having been sent, but could not be displayed.
    Much the same with a different pair. The yahell showed the text, and 3/6 photos as blanks not openable. The googlegroups showed everything.
    This has now dragged for 8 days (28.5 here; 20.5 last success).
    Management maintains complete silence, as it always has.
    Even posting these message is a pain: I am asked to sign in to yahell. That's how I got in here in the first instance, after having a frustrating posting session, then spending time seeing what got through.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    I have just tried reposting to two groups with just the text and no photos. Still neither has gone through. The last success was on 20.5; it is now 28.5.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    No improvement; now 28.5. More groups are bouncing 'delayed too long'.

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    Anonymous commented  · 

    Three groups have accepted no post with photos since 21.5 (now 27.5); not even the text appears. One group accepts the text, but only half of the photos each time; then half of half on the first repeat, then half of half...
    One group accepts both, and within seconds.
    Now the ones rejecting are sending automatic replies: 'Sorry, unable to post; message delayed too long, giving up'. That is bizarre: Yahoo mail going to Yahoo groups. As ever, is this malice to scare us away, or is it incompetence?

    Anonymous commented  · 

    8/15, then 4/7, then 2/4, then 2/2.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Photo uploading has gone erratic. Yahoo mail sends the photos, but Yahoo groups won't receive them all. Tonight I have had 9/18, then 6/9 on a repeat, then 12/27 on a further repeat plus the ones held for safety. I haven't tried the remaining 15 yet.
    I am signed in with yahoo, but useless yahoo doesn't believe so.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Wed.13.3.19 test: photos are back, with no announcement re the cause, the cure, or likely future reliability.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Tues.12.1.19 test: the same as before. Photos go through only to those on direct email, and not to the web version. It went for this length once before, and for a shorter duration on the second run in 2018. Obviously management wants people to defect.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Mon.11.3.19 test post: still no photos to the web (either with the post, or into the archive of photos). Now since 16.2.19.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Sun.10.3.19 test post: unchanged since 16.2. I endorse all of the comments in this thread, but arrogant yahell allows only 'flag as inapproriate', and not 'flag as highly appropriate'. It doesn't read anything from feedback anyhow. The whole section exists to help us spend our energy and feel as if we have achieved something.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    9.3.19 test, same as daily since 16.2: No photos on the web version, only to direct email.
    What makes it worse is the arrogant smug comment at one side:
    'We've improved your Yahoo Groups experience. See what's new'.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    8.3.19 test: same as every day since 16.2. Nothing goes to the web version.
    The useless feedback section wants me to sign in again just to comment: I am signed in, which is how I know that the photo feature is still a failure.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    My Wed.6.3 test was delayed for 24 h. As for over 2 weeks, the photo goes to people on direct email, but not to the web version. Management wants us to defect after it failed to kill all groups in two tries in 2018.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    I didn't send a test on 5.3, but the 6.3 is now in a queue: yahell has distributed nothing for 16 h. That has been an earlier failing, and has lasted for 72 h or longer.
    Management never sends a message of explanation or apology to list owners.
    Today, it isn't even possible to log in to register the failings: that has failed too.
    I should have to log in a second time , as I am already logged in to observe my groups failing.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The malice or failure continues. My Mon.4.3.19 test post has the same problems as the preceding ones.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    My daily test post for Sun.3.3.19: no improvement. Not on the web, but does go to those on individual email.
    Keep your outrage flowing, but arrogant management won't even read it, let alone act.
    I'm still undecided which is the better group structure: googlegroups or groups-io. Facebook has its own arrogance issues, and is notorious for hosting flames, trolls and fake information.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    My daily test post today (Sat.2.3.19) got through to those on individual email, but not to the web version. Remember, this whole feeback section is to make us feel good and believe that something is happening. Arrogant management never reads, let alone act.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The last photo shown in the group which I run was on 15.2.19.
    I am putting up a test post each day.
    Today (Fri.1.3.19), the photo is not showing on the web version of the post, and isn't in the web photo album. It did go through to those on direct email.
    This happened twice towards the end of 2018 (once for 2 weeks; once for 1 week).
    I now count the fault this time as 14 days.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    This is back to the 2017 disaster, which caused so many to flee from yahoo to google groups and to groups-io and to facebook. We thought at the time that it was deliberate management policy to scare us away. Then the facility worked again, but too late: traffic was down. It took months to fix last time. What happens now? Even this feedback form is hard to use. I am signed in, and it asks for me to sign again.

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    Anonymous commented  · 

    Yes, there is a reason for doing nothing. Management doesn't want us; advertisers don't want us. We are a drain on their search for financial nirvana. The worse the 'service', the more who will defect elsewhere, preferably to paid sites.

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    Anonymous commented  · 

    One method of offering proper support would be to read the feedback. It seems to be a management ploy to allow us to let off steam and feel as if we are achieving something, while always ignoring the feedback. No fast-food chain would survive with that management attitude.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    That is because yahell never consults the feedback. The feature is here only to make us think that we are being heard: like swearing in adversity, or punching a pillow. We let off steam, feel better, and management continues like a bulldozer. Yahell wants us to defect to facebook, and will achieve that goal with a mixture of malice and incompetence.
    Believe that management means well when direct access is allowed.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Sun.10.3.19 test post: unchanged since 16.2. I endorse all of the comments in this thread, but arrogant yahell allows only 'flag as inapproriate', and not 'flag as highly appropriate'. It doesn't read anything from feedback anyhow. The whole section exists to help us spend our energy and feel as if we have achieved something.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    It is a deliberate management strategy to scare us all away. The advertisers don't want us here either: they want us at more-productive locations.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The photo facility went down a few weeks ago, but was revived within days.
    Now it has gone down again today (Sunday 20 January 2019).
    What faith can anyone or any group place in yahell?
    To quote my aunt: 'Up and down more often than a prostitutes panties'.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    My friend who runs a competing facebook site is gloating: his membership numbers are going through the roof with defectors from yahell. Clearly that is what yahell management wants, but it is getting there through sneaky underhand methods, and not with a direct honest announcement.

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    Anonymous commented  · 

    Wed.13.3.19 test: photos are back, with no announcement re the cause, the cure, or likely future reliability.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Tues.12.1.19 test: the same as before. Photos go through only to those on direct email, and not to the web version. It went for this length once before, and for a shorter duration on the second run in 2018. Obviously management wants people to defect.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Mon.11.3.19 test post: still no photos to the web (either with the post, or into the archive of photos). Now since 16.2.19.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Sun.10.3.19 test post: unchanged since 16.2. I endorse all of the comments in this thread, but arrogant yahell allows only 'flag as inappropriate', and not 'flag as highly appropriate'. It doesn't read anything from feedback anyhow. The whole section exists to help us spend our energy and feel as if we have achieved something.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    9.3.19 test, same as daily since 16.2: No photos on the web version, only to direct email.
    What makes it worse is the arrogant smug comment at one side:
    'We've improved your Yahoo Groups experience. See what's new'.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    8.3.19 test: same as every day since 16.2. Nothing goes to the web version.
    The useless feedback section wants me to sign in again just to comment: I am signed in, which is how I know that the photo feature is still a failure.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    My Wed.6.3 test was delayed for 24 h. As for over 2 weeks, the photo goes to people on direct email, but not to the web version. Management wants us to defect after it failed to kill all groups in two tries in 2018.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    I didn't send a test on 5.3, but the 6.3 is now in a queue: yahell has distributed nothing for 16 h. That has been an earlier failing, and has lasted for 72 h or longer.
    Management never sends a message of explanation or apology to list owners.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The malice or failure continues. My Mon.4.3.19 test post has the same problems as the preceding ones.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    My daily test post for Sun.3.3.19: no improvement. Not on the web, but does go to those on individual email.
    Keep your outrage flowing, but arrogant management won't even read it, let alone act.
    I'm still undecided which is the better group structure: googlegroups or groups-io. Facebook has its own arrogance issues, and is notorious for hosting flames, trolls and fake information.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    My daily test post today (Sat.2.3.19) got through to those on individual email, but not to the web version. Remember, this whole feeback section is to make us feel good and believe that something is happening. Arrogant management never reads, let alone act.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The last photo shown in the group which I run was on 15.2.19.
    I am putting up a test post each day.
    Today (Fri.1.3.19), the photo is not showing on the web version of the post, and isn't in the web photo album. It did go through to those on direct email.
    This happened twice towards the end of 2018 (once for 2 weeks; once for 1 week).
    I now count the fault this time as 14 days.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    28 Feb. photos are going through to those on direct email, but are not being displayed on the web version. This is the same fault as has occurred twice recently, and has now dragged for over a week.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The failure this time is worse than the previous two. Now the photos don't even go through to those on direct email. This was made worse by a smug comment: link to an existing automatic album from an earlier post on this topic. As usual, there is no hint from yahell itself that there is a problem, or when it will be fixed, or if it will never be fixed. Yahell really wants us to defect to facebook (just as arrogant), groups-io or googlegroups.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Yet again. No photos since 16 February. Is it malice or incompetence? It is just as well that yahlell isn't designing driverless cars.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The last successful posting was on Fri.18.1.19. Anything from Sat.20.1.19 is a failure.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The photo facility went down a few weeks ago, but was revived within days.
    Now it has gone down again today (Sunday 20 January 2019).
    What faith can anyone or any group place in yahell?
    To quote my aunt: 'Up and down more often than a prostitutes panties'.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Is it management malice (ve haf vays und means ov getting rid ov you) or is it simply incompetence? The last round went for months.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    This week no mail has got through to the web version, but all had photos attached.
    I have now sent a text only email as well as one with a photo: neither has got through.
    Poking text into the web version, and today a poked photo got through. However, it was only a single, and not large. One swallow doth not a spring make.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    'Please post ideas about how we can improve the groups': Blatant spin, always ignored. Management has done nothing to fix this, and now yahell has plummeted worse, with lots of text posts not appearing either. The largest groups to which I belong have defected to forum software, to groups-io, to google groups and to facebook. This is just what yahell management wants.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    There are teasing days when some photos go through to some groups, but the performance is erratic, and can't be trusted as a permanent fix.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Erratically, the photo feature is being restored. Some groups are displaying photos; others aren't. I don't know if it is the luck of the draw for the server on which the group is hosted, or if its a quantity issue, or if it is a photo-size issue. Until reliability is restored, I am continuing with my flickr workaround.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Arrogant yahoo allows only 'flag as inappropriate'; it should also allow 'flag as highly appropriate', as so many of the comments have been. As all of my gloating facebook friends keep telling me: Yahoo is dead.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    We're all being played for suckers. Management wants us to vanish. Apart from flickr and google groups, there is a new player: groups.io. One of my most-prolific yahoo groups has not only switched, it has migrated 20 years of posts. Among other features, post editing is allowed.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    It is clearly deliberate, and the lack of any fix or even message is complete arrogance. Just leave us stringing along, and hope that we will defect elsewhere. I'm using my flickr account for those not on direct email, but I am deleting each after 7 days.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Yahoo web version continues to lurch downhill, now with the fake message 'no posts for the last 7 days'. Clearly, management wants us out, but won't say so, as it might hit daily newspapers. The problem then is where to go. Facebook can be made to work, but is usually feral. It needs an iron hand, and people who are very careful about all the useless side offerings. Flickr can be made to work; it is simply slow for volume.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Obviously the problem won't be fixed; management wants us to run away, without putting it into words. The latest lurch downwards is to show 'no activity for the last 7 days', on groups which have daily activity. Presumably that message is triggered by 'no photos for the last 7 days', which really is none for the last 2 months.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The only one which is working is the one where I place photos for publication in a club magazine, and they have to be at full publishing size and quality. For other groups, it seems that most members are on direct email. I am not, as that can be quite overloaded. Those who aren't on direct email have to resort to a range of workarounds: links, a private archive, my flickr site. That is cumbersome for them and time-consuming for me. I also have to take time to pull the photos down again after being up for 7 days, and so new members never see the past posts.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    My one group which is working failed today. However, there seems to be an upper limit of 300 kB per photo. When I stitched one individually, above 300 kB failed, below went through. However, that still doesn't cover the bulk of my groups. At the moment, flickr is working, but more time consuming for me and for viewers. We have to get this issue up from fourth to first, and then maybe management will start to read, and start to act. Otherwise, I am completely pessimistic, and doubt that it will ever be fixed.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    4 years ago, the same management team destroyed flickr. It is cumbersome and slow for both posters and viewers. However, it does accept photos. Short term, I am using my flickr account to hold photos, but I will have to keep deleting on a 7 day cycle to keep the account manageable.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    One experiment: create a new group, and see if the photos work there. Management would love that: yahoo doubles popularity overnight. At 40 days and 40 nights, I subscribe to the malice theory, not the incompetence one.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Still no comment from management: 'This is tricky but we are working on it' or 'Let the peasants eat cake' or any shade between.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    My one group which is still displaying photos just took eight in one post and showed them. If it is possible on one yahoo server, it is possible on all. Soon this post will hit top spot, then finally the arrogant or lazy or incompetent management will read it. Keep on complaining.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Facebook is there and waiting. It runs into trouble with its search box and with long-term archiving, but achieves the goals which people seek. There was a mass flight from yahoo to facebook 3-4 years back, during the first round of unwanted changes. There hasn't been a single response from yahoo management in the weeks for which this problem has been ongoing. Conclusion: management wants us to run away.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    One group works, and even accepted two photos in one post today. If one works, all should work.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    I have one group where photos are still displayed. I do send only one at a time. If one group can, all can. I still can't decide whether to vote for the malice theory or the incompetence one, but the result is the same.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    The complete insult comes on the groups home page: 'We've improved your Yahoo Groups experience. See what's new!'.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    This is clearly malice from management. Since the Verizon takeover, yahoo is seen as a lemon to be killed forthwith. Make sure that you have saved any photos or text which are important. It will soon be the new photobucket. I have just started my replacement facebook; another group is ready to roll with a google replacement. We are all ******* into the wind, and management is laughing, hoping that we will defect.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    I had dinner last night with the owner of a large and busy group. He has done all of the spadework to switch to google groups. He is convinced that yahoo is going down financially, and soon everything will be lost (just like photobucket). That group runs a private archive, dating back to when photos weren't allowed as attachments; they had to be placed in albums. Photos are still going to members who are on individual email, but that is very cumbersome for them: it clogs email and hard drives.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    I have one group where single photos have appeared, but I don't post to it daily. All other ones fail. It may be to do with the server, but that is technical, and shouldn't take over 2 weeks to fix. Keep the posts coming: this complaint has risen to 24th, and may be read by management when it reaches top spot.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    No message here; no message to group owners. The arrogance is as bad as the failing.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    At 14 days, this has to be a policy change, not a technical glitch and not incompetence. Of the five categories from under review to accepted to rejected, not one category is listed for this. That hints at arrogance rather than incompetence.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Time to put up the step by step instructions for creating a replacement facebook group, and for a replacement google group. Three years ago, the unwanted changes caused a lot of defection to facebook. It is quite possible to run closed facebook groups, free from trolls, but the search and archiving functions are punk.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Do use your votes to bring this to top rank. Three is all which I can use on the one thread, and I have. The largest group of which I am a member is migrating to google fully; another is looking at running google as the photo auxiliary. The small one which I run I will use as a learning curve for migration to google. Yahoo can't cope, doesn't try and doesn't care.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    Into a ninth day: is it malice or is it incompetence? There is never any message from management, not even to owners of groups.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    This is now the eight day of this failure: no fix, and no comment from management. Is this a deliberate policy change? Does yahoo really want us to defect to google?

    Anonymous commented  · 

    This is now into its seventh day (Tues.5.12 - Mon.11.12), with no fix and no announcement from yahoo that it is a permanent policy change. When it was simply random erratic, photos could be attached (a few at a time, or singly) by mailing from the web version. That has also failed for 7 days.

    Anonymous commented  · 

    My last photos went through on Tues.5.12 morning; it is now Sun.10.12 morning and no photo has gone through to the web version on any of my groups. They are going through to people on direct email. Is this a technical issue or a policy one? If policy, it will cause a major exodus to google groups.

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    Most of my groups defected to facebook 3 years ago. Now two are planning to defect to google because yahoo has gone so flaky. Photo attachments have now failed for 4 days.

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