DATABASES STILL PROBLEMS after revamping
I appreciate yahoo trying to make the databases usable again
Indeed there are many good things in the improvements and I appreciate you got us the French accented characters back again.
However, the format is still difficult to read and use for following reasons:
1/ column headings do not align with the actual columns as soon as you click on one of the columns to have it ordered. After reordering one column, column headings stay the same at the top but when you scroll down, column widths vary and no longer fit the headings!
example: I try to sort out column number 3 according to zip code, all columns realign but not with the headings, one still cannot understand what each column is about
2/ I dont understand the first column: these numbers are of no use at all, I used to have the first column for the name of the group member who put in the information, this is what I wanted first but now it is no longer! It takes space for no use.
3/ I appreciate having more length for reading each column but this is far toooooo long now, you need to use the cursor to go very far to the right, while it used to be possible to read the whole table without using cursors.
4/ In particular, to move the cursor to the right, you need to go ALL THE WAY down the database, even if it was the first entry you wanted to go and read towards the right! Now if you want to go back and read the second entry (out of 400 or so entries) you need to scroll back all the way to the top, and then when you want to go to the right to see what is in the 5th or 6th column,, you need to go ALL THE WAY down to get the cursor towards the RIGHT, you must be KIDDING ME ?
Therefore, I much prefered having pages, rather than scroll down the entire list !
5/ It would be nicer to have the entire page free to read the database and thus PLEASe could you get rid of the list of all the groups I own or am a member of, on the left of the screen, this is really totally unnneeded once I am in a group and even more when we are trying to read a database.
Overall comment: you have really worked hard and I appreciate.
HOWEVER, it is really still very difficult to use and far LESS convenient than it USED TO BE
Deborah from PAris
Thank you for the additional default actions in the Edit Membership but one section does seem to have been missed - that of the Database - it is so niggling having to change the view each time we go in there - I prefer the slim view - is it possible to add this to the section in Membership please. It would actually have been better if we as owners could have the choice of default but hey this is better than nothing I suppose.
Would it be possible please to restrict the delete icon on the rows in the Database to owners, moderators and table owners - I have been losing rows in the Database and I am thinking maybe that members are using the delete button instead of the edit icon and are not aware or will not admit to this, there should really be no need for members to delete and should they need to do this then they can contact the owner but this is not an issue for us anyway - because some members are still unable to access the Database we have to do this for them anyway.
My craft groups use the Database and Photos almost exclusively so this is also causing frustration among members. I have no idea why some are unable to access the Database - I have suggested updating browsers etc but it seems to make no difference - we certainly never had this problem with Classic.
I used the Database now and when I first searched for a title to see if it was in the database and then put the new one it - it seemed like the new one overwrites the old one.
I tried 3 times, and every time it overwrite one of the search result, but different each time -
I tried one time finally without searching before adding a row, and then it went ok.
I can add that I am not quite satisfied with the database - not how it works and how it sorts and I can´t understand the row with the number either - what is the point of this?
And still many of the letters are not correctly - this is the norwegian letters æ ø å - some have been ok, but some are still a mess - have tried to correct it when I have found the errors.
And finally - the Calendar are not working with foreign letters either.
Our private group, An Affair With Art, has periodically experienced a problem with subsequent entries overwriting prior entries in databases since the rollout of Neo. Whenever it has happened in the past, it has been an inexperienced member - and we have been unable to document exactly what occurred so that we could report it.
Yesterday, one of our moderators who is very knowledgeable in using databases in Neo experienced the following:
I was entering the “mail to” names in the Postcard Database. Everything was going along fine.
I edited Row 15 (Pam’s Row); added Gloria K to the second column. Saved. It said Gloria K.
I then edited Row 16 (Julie’s Row), added Teresa #2 to the second column. Saved. When I reviewed the edit, I saw that it had changed Pam’s name/address on Row 15 to Julie’s, and changed Gloria K. to Teresa. Row 16 still said Julies name and second column was blank. Basically, the edited Row 16 shifted up to 15 when I saved.
I corrected all of that and re-entered Teresa’s name to Row 16. Saved, and all was well.
When I went to edit Row 17 (Linda’s Row), it did exactly the same thing. I had entered Donita’s name to the 2nd column. Saved. This row’s information showed up on Row 16. Ugh. I corrected row 16, and then re-entered Donita to Row 17. Again, it was as if the edited Row 17 shifted up to 16 when I saved.
Row 18 went smoothly, and I was done.
This appears to be a system bug - and we would appreciate your fixing it.
As of today, 5/1/14, some of my databases are still having issues. When a member updates a line, sometimes another line is deleted and other times the line is duplicated. I am having to back up the databases every day, more than once a day so that I can fix whatever gets deleted.
I belong to several card groups that handmake and swap greeting cards. I just tried to join a couple of these swaps in the data base section and once again am having a very frustrating time of it. As soon as I add my name to a swap and hit save, the data base reverts to the default setting which is a scrambled mess of open and closed swaps. I then have to click on the date at the top to get the swaps in order of open swaps so I can join them. This happens each and every time I want to add my name and it's one more thing taking its toll on my arthritic hands.
I managed to add my name to a few swaps but when I went back into the data base later, one of the swap choices was missing (along with all the cardmakers names that had joined this swap) and now there is a swap that is shown twice. This happens far too often and is messing with the moderator's head. She's about to give up organizing these swaps because yahoo can't seem to get the bugs out.
This is not a new issue but one you may not have heard about before.
The second issue in the database is that the edit and trash buttons are so close to eachother that it's easy to hit trash and thus delete the whole swap entry. We have asked before that you place the trashcan on the far right away from the edit which is on the far left.
Some of my members are saying they are unable to add Data to the Database - they do not get the pop-up box after clicking on Edit - I suggested that maybe the pop-up blocker could be to blame but apparently not - I have one on my computer but it does NOT affect NEO. Some are saying they cannot even get on to the Database at all - we use the Database extensively - it is the main feature for my groups for swapping art. Have you any idea what the problem may be please??
Another annoyance is the new row numbering - this is not needed - it uses up space and really has no significance in the Databases - perhaps some may like it but I have not heard that anyone finds it useful so can it be a choice made by owners and moderators please?
Since the improved Database was rolled out today some tables have disappeared - it is of some concern as in all three of my groups it is the address books that have gone containing all the members home addresses.
We appreciate the improvements but worry about the problems they seem to have caused.
(Note: this is a revision of my earlier comment of today (“row numbers”) because as soon as I posted it, the database changed! I saw no way to delete that comment, which is now outdated.)
Today there is a new editing procedure in the database. Each row has an edit icon (pencil) and a delete icon (trash can) to the left of the row. It makes editing a row easier. One can sort the way one likes, and then edit a row without having to scroll through the whole database to find the row. Good. An improvement. We thank you.
The entries in the table are now very readable, without most of the awful line breaks in the middle of the words. Good again.
But … there is a new left-most column called Row, with a unique number in the column for every row. What is the meaning of this? The rows are not numbered consecutively from 1 to n. They appear to start at 1 but, for reasons known only to Yahoo, some numbers are skipped. My table with 48 rows has the rows numbered from 1 to 86, with many numbers skipped (it goes 1, 15, 21, 24, ...). When I add a row, it says it is adding row 49 (good) but then labels it in the Row column as row 87 (strange). This apparently useless new Row column takes up valuable real estate, better used by the other data in the table.
The columns are still one-size-fits-all, and too wide for most of my data. If I could adjust the column width as people have asked for earlier, my data would be more readable. I would have skinny columns for dates and wide columns for email addresses, which still have bad line breaks.
Also, I am concerned about how close together the Edit and Delete icons are, 1/4" on my monitor. Yes, you ask for confirmation before deleting the row, but wouldn’t it be better to separate the icons more, say by putting one icon all the way to the left of the row, the other all the way to the right, for user-friendliness?
Please allow the moderator to adjust column widths in the database, and either explain or get rid of the row numbers.
Database Search function not working
I am the owner and moderator of the Mearns Bird Club Yahoo group
We have 4 databases on our Yahoo website. Recently the Search box has not been functioning, so if I put in the name of a bird (this is a bird club Yahoo Group) and click Search, nothing happens. It just stays on the same page.
It used to work well until the last month or so.
Please fix this.
Ajit Antony M.D.
Anonymous shared this idea · September 03, 2015
more people are bringing the same complaint
and tired of database not saving info, I am so darn tired of adding info multiple times and it doesn't save!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trying to add databases and every darn time I have to add ALL the info multiple times and I click save, and it just loads and doesn't save, been this way since you changed to this stupid new look. Don't blame my computer, I tried multiple computers and even my friend across the street who has a different internet provider.
RoryRory shared this idea · Sep 13, 2015
We are losing rows and data, WILL YOU EVER ANSWER US ?????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? ??????????????????? ????????????????????? ?????????????????? ???????????????????? ????????????
Patty S commented
Specifically, today and yesterday, for many of our list members the Search function is not working. List members have tried using different web browsers, but everyone is getting the same result - the database just refreshes when searched, and does not display entries. Even when tested with known entries using one word searches to assure the information is in the database, and should come up in the Search. Please fix this new bug.
There is still a problem with databases: we lose data when inputting new lines.
The row numbers are unneeded and create havoc in the alphabetical order.
We cannot use the Databases !
Database losing alphabetical order with row numbers
I am the owner and moderator of the Mearns Bird Club Yahoo group.
One of our databases is the "Birding Sites in Orange County and Nearby" table
This used to be in alphabetical order until the Row Numbers were added, and now there is no order to the list making it difficult for members to find a birding spot.
Please remove the Row Numbers so that the table can revert to the alphabetical order there was before the Neo groups change.
Ajit Antony M.D.
There is still a major problem with the databases: when having 8, 9 or 10 columns, and adding a row, then you lose data from the previous entries !
This issue has been mentioned many times and never adressed
it makes it impossible to use the databases and update them regularly with new data, because part of the old data gets ERASED !
Please help us fix this BUG
and more problems about databases again :
make default view for databse "slim" - otherwise in default we can't see all the columns.
make the default view for database "slim". in current default view ("relaxed") we can't see all the columns, and don't realize they are hidden. it should somehow indicate that there is more off screen not viewable in 'relaxed' view.
jenuphotojenuphoto shared this idea · April 11, 2015
one more new problem about databases :
Database keyboard scroll in Google Chrome doesn't work but it works in Internet Explorer. I am not able to read the entire line of the datab
Database keyboard scroll in Google Chrome doesn't work but it works in Internet Explorer. I am not able to read the entire line of the database record because I don't think this new platform is compatible with Google Chrome. Can this be fixed?
Anonymous shared this idea · Apr 13, 2015 ·
new posts about the same issue here :
Can you fix this edit database feature?
I can edit the other 9 columns and add more in my Database but for some strange reason can not delete or even edit column 8 without getting an error message! Can you please fix this edit table feature?
Terry KilburgTerry Kilburg shared this idea · April 24, 2015 ·
Why no info on whether or not Yahoo is evn trying to fix this? Just tell us, yes or no, that it will be fixed.
When are you going to fix the databases so we can enter new data without erasing the older entries ? Hundreds of messages on this and other posts have asked for it, during over 2 years.
When I enter information into my group database, after I save not all the information is there.
The database needs fixing. It is not saving all the information, only some of it. Even when I edit and re-enter the information, specifically dates, they aren't showing up.
angelmoms2angelmoms2 shared this idea · March 08, 2015
Make it easier to get to "Groups," both on PC and definitely on mobile devices.
"Groups" used to appear on the mini-nav bar at the top of the Yahoo Home page. Now I have to click "more" and find it in a list of tons of other products. It is virtually impossible to find Groups on my mobile phone.
Nichole BNichole B shared this idea · Mar 9, 2015
I am not able to delete a record in a database.
I want to delete a row. A dialog comes up to confirm. I answer to delete it but the record remains.
Anonymous shared this idea · Mar 13, 2015
Restore delete function to database
Use groups for weekly golf group signup. (Desert Eagles at Pebble Creek). Over last few days have lost ability to delete rows from database. Cannot not delete records of those who signed up and now cannot play. Use same tables changing dates into future. Usually can delete those from current week to prep for future weeks. Not now.
George BrownGeorge Brown shared this idea · Mar 13, 2015 ·
Cannot delete tables anymore
We up to last week could delete tables and rows in tables. This has stopped working. We can still edit.
Anonymous shared this idea · Mar 16, 2015 ·
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I am not able to delete a record in a database.
I want to delete a row. A dialog comes up to confirm. I answer to delete it but the record remains.
Anonymous shared this idea · Mar 13, 2015 ·
Databases still overwriting when adding a new entry
this is destroying YEARS OF WORK
and the whole flexibility the databases used to bring to groups !!!!
PLEASE FIX, AFTER 2 OR 3 YEARS ISNT IT TIME ???
I am having problems with member records disappearing from the database. I can't find any other way to contact you about it.
member records are disappearing from the database randomly. This has been happening for the last 3-4 weeks. HELP!!
Anonymous shared this idea · Feb 6, 2015 ·