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    406 comments  ·  US Groups » Defects or Bugs  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Stick a fork in Yahoo...they're done! They did away with profiles info years ago. Then they discontinued Yahoo Instant Messenger. Now they have essentially destroyed any worthwhile functionality that used to be present in the groups (photos, files, etc). They're finished and everyone knows it! I just deleted my groups which have been around for years and years. Yahoo can go F--- themselves!

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    Still able to load NEW content to Yahoo groups which was supposed to have ended 2 weeks ago!

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    "As a group owner, I got my copy of the weasel words today. Right when yahoo is working better than it has for 2 years. Not only are all photos getting through to everywhere, there are no longer delays lasting for hours/days. Suddenly it is a product worth retaining. That hints that all recent disasters have been deliberate management sabotage.

    Yep,no doubt about that. For the last 2 years, it has NOT been working more than it has been working. Suddenly, they get ready to jettison having to pay for server storage of all this stuff, and magically it all works. LOL! It is NOT an "evolution of the product"...that would have 0.0 to do with the product now working would it?

    "2. New groups can still be formed - Users can continue to connect with others around their common bonds and interests". [Who would want to? All of those people went to facebook. I can use my regular email to communicate with friends].

    Agree again although I will say that Facebook seems to be on a big time slide also...the way they are getting paid for allowing known LIBEL to be posted...the way they have sold everybody's info to advertisers, etc and be very underhanded about it, etc. I wouldn't be buying Facebook stock either. You can only run a sleazebag platform for so long.

    "The problem is that, by the time yahell realised the disaster and backtracks, it will be too late: everyone will have lost their archive, or will have paid -io a premium subscription to retain it. They won't be coming back."

    Absolutely true.

    "One has left yahell already, and gone to google, with no need to transfer years of yahell (which google won't do)."

    Yeah, the problem I see with Google though is unless I'm missing something Yahoo IS becoming Google groups. They allow communication like a forum, messages with attachments, etc but NO WAY to store things permanently. In other words, Google doesn't seem to have the equivalent of the Yahoo Groups Photos section or Files section which is why I started my Yahoo groups to begin with.

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    Tom commented  · 

    "New content can no longer be uploaded after October 28, 2019" Interesting, since I just uploaded a large file to one of my groups.

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    Yahell spewed the propaganda "All Groups will be made private and any content that was previously uploaded via the website will be removed. We believe privacy is critical and made this decision to better align with our overall principles."

    AND the real reason is that Yahoo didn't want to expend money on 3rd party servers for storage space. That is the REAL reason!

    I created a Google group. It appears just like Yahoo there will be no way to store photos and files permanently in the group but it is basically for emails and temporarily available attachments. Is that correct?

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    Anonymous wrote ". I rushed to get items up on 28.10, the advertised last date for accepting input. 10 hours later, yahell still hasn't posted them anywhere (web or direct)." To be honest, it matters little unless you expect some people to save those items. Because as they state as of Dec 14, the groups content is going to be rubbed out. If that indeed happens, I will be deleting my groups. But I'm waiting to make sure they actually go through with all of this...no use in rushing to remove the groups until there is nothing left.

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    Commenting to Deborah: Quite a few comments have been made about Yahoo's slide once they went to "neo"...maybe that was the 2011 time frame you mentioned. I WILL say that over the years Yahoo groups storage for photos dramatically increased to 1 gig and also the photos album reorder feature worked reasonably well after for years hardly ever working. However, the last couple of years have been pretty much a disaster. I would say a majority of the last 2 years, it wasn't working properly more than it when it did...I'm talking Photos section. To be honest, I load stuff in Files section and I honestly can't remember that ever not working.

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    It is becoming pretty obvious what the real problem with Yahoo groups was/is. I always said it was one of 2 things 1) incompetent programmers 2) issue with Yahoo accessing their storage area which is located at xa.ying.com Pretty clear to me that magically the problems got fixed when Yahoo announced long term, they were basically closing down the photos functionality part of the group. That leads me to the obvious conclusion that Yahoo doesn't want to pay for storage area on external servers which affects photos section for example but doesn't affect email functionality for example which they are keeping. It also wouldn't affect email usage WITH attachments. Bottom line is that is just another example of the old adage "you get what you pay for". Yahoo groups are free...Yahoo having to provide server storage of photos is NOT free. Explains it all!

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    To anonymous "Yahell fixed the photos just so that it could close down the functionality. That is evidence that there has been no technical problem, just management bastardry." I noticed the same thing! This is the best Yahoo groups has worked in MONTHS...coincidence...I think not!

    To anonymous: "I am told by those who defected to googlegroups and groups-io last year that there is a method of transferring all photos and messages in bulk, giving the impression that they had been posted there originally. I have found no evidence that there is anything AFTER the migration to neo that works. For sure, there was software out there to download photos and files from Yahoo BEFORE the neo change. If you find out differently, please post the software link, but even one software site said that after the neo change,they couldn't get their script to work anymore

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    to m.v. - Yeah I received my download notification and you of course were correct...they send a small zip file which even when expanded is still a few small files...no photos obviously...no file section obviously, etc. As you said before, pretty much worthless

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    I don't know the definition of data but I thought it would be everything from the group site. But I'm not surprised "Photos and files can be saved right from the Yahoo Groups site, or you can download your data from the Privacy Dashboard. "

    So in other words, you must have to single shot download photos and files just like you could to any time in the past (when it was working). So if you have 5000 photos, you would have to click the download arrow 5000 times after moving to each photo individually. Hardly practical! Yahell strikes again!

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    Let's move on from the Yahoo decision...it ain't going to change....period! So my question is IN THE PAST, there was free software that could download massive numbers of photos/albums easily. My understanding is after the neo change, there is no such software. Correct me on this if there is.

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    Christian, I have contacted Verizon a couple of times in the past during problem times,and they said they don't have anything to do with Yahoo groups...good idea but Verizon isn't involved at all with Yahoo's groups

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    Tom commented  · 

    Now in about the 6th or 7th week for THIS particular cycle of Photos not uploading properly. This truly is the most incompetent situation I have seen in my life. Almost 50 straight days of the SAME problem and STILL not fixed!

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    Christopher, another little Yahoo deal. It will NOT take my votes to upgrade this issue. I assume you know that being 22nd is a joke! As you mentioned it went up only 1 place. I tried to vote 3 votes multiple times and never took one single attempt at it. Bottom line: they can't even get the voting system on problems to work...or don't want it to work!

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    Like a couple of other posters, it is working to SOME degree. I have tried to load batches of say 12 photos and 9 were successful. I had to make a second pass to do the other 3. Anyway, I have drained my inventory to do at least. This also in my mind further debunks the Malwarebytes theory blocking the site Yahoo uses for storage due to being on a phishing list. It is not a security issue at all. It is a communication issue related to uploading/downloading pictures. Whether it is related to the cloud site or a software bug (timing issue, etc) I have no idea. But obviously it isn't a phishing issue because otherwise not one single photo would have worked.

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    Larry G, a couple of things don't make sense using that Malwarebytes theory. 1) Assuming the phishing deal, why would this cycle happen literally 15 to 20 times over the past 2 years. Are you saying it is on the malicious website list, then not on it, then on it, then not on it, etc, etc, etc. Maybe someone could override the warning at Yahoo? 2) Many times in the past, only SOME Yahoo groups had trouble uploading pictures. I have 6 Yahoo groups, 4 of which are pretty active in new photos. Some of these occasions, some worked perfectly while the same time other groups didn't. I DO buy that xa.ying.com may very well be the source of the problem as I have stated twice before in earlier messages, but unless 1) and 2) can be explained, the Malwarebyes flagging theory doesn't seem plausible to me. JMHO.

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    Larry G wrote "Furthermore WTF is xa.yimg, and why is this interim website interfering with our uploads, or even to download something" As I said in an earlier message to yours, one of 2 things is happening and it doesn't matter which one. 1) the programmers are just incompetent or 2) xa.ying.... seems to be their cloud storage area for photos....File sections in groups are still fine BTW. So if their external server storage area/cloud can't be accessed, that would explain why you can neither add new photos or view already loaded ones.

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    What a shocker!!! Yet again, photos are not being uploaded and able to be downloaded!

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    Yep, same problem as before...and before...and before. Utterly amazing that photo uploading has been around for over a decade and they STILL can't stabilize the process!

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    550 comments  ·  US Groups » Photos experience  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Tom commented  · 

    Day 5 of Yahoo Groups held ******* by incompetent software.

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    I have found a great alternative for storing pictures (many GBs of space) and has a chat area. You can create folders (read only, read and write shared, etc). The main downer I see is that to have members join they either have to be MEGA members or you have to invite them via their email address. In other words, it isn't like Yahoo groups where you can just let people join. And I don't know if it has a message area...looks to just be a chat area. Anyway, to check it out, https://mega.nz For those who remember MegaUpload which was forced out of business due to copyright violation of videos, etc, this was created by some of the same people (hence New Zealand being the country of origin). But the bottom line is Yahoo is never going to be fixed obviously so this is just one option perhaps.

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    Tom commented  · 

    Day 50 something of some of my groups being broken regarding Photos. Stick a fork in Yahoo...they're done!

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    Group that wasn't working uploading photos...still not working. This is now being going on for 50 days straight.

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    "To answer the original poster's question, NO there is no such thing as tech support at Yahoo any more. Certainly not for any of the supposedly "free" Yahoo products, like basic email and groups." Then miracles must indeed happen then. Because about 5 times a year, there ARE Yahoo groups problems that magically get fixed somehow. I have it on loading photos before...loading files in the past...reordering photos in albums...getting to groups period, etc, etc, etc. So either they do have some sort of technical support or miracles happen. I'm not saying it is ever a top priority but indeed Yahoo does have somebody who can fix issues...they have done it time and time again.

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    Appears like they either aren't skilled enough to fix this issue or don't care about fixing it. 40 days and counting in some of my groups

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    Since some programmer obviously screwed up on an update, go back to the software version before about Dec 3rd and reload that version to run Yahoo groups.

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    Photos can still be uploaded in some of my groups but not all of them. The most annoying thing is that this feature has literally been around a decade. It isn't like some great new option/feature has a bug in it. IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT! As a programmer myself, the first rule of software development is like the first rule for doctors..."do no harm". Unbelievable that such a basic feature that has been around for years and years has now been broken for some people for 4 weeks.

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    18 comments  ·  US Groups » Photos experience  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Typical poor programming from Yahoo software people. This isn't rocket science...it has been working for years and then suddenly this year we have major problems where photos couldn't be loaded several months ago and that lasted for 3 months. Now, this has been going on about a week where some ALREADY loaded pictures won't display. Geez, hire a couple of monkeys and see if they can fix this issue...couldn't do worse than the current programmers!

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    375 comments  ·  US Groups » Support Issues  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    I have found a great alternative for storing pictures (many GBs of space) and has a chat area. You can create folders (read only, read and write shared, etc). The main downer I see is that to have members join they either have to be MEGA members or you have to invite them via their email address. In other words, it isn't like Yahoo groups where you can just let people join. And I don't know if it has a message area...looks to just be a chat area. Anyway, to check it out, https://mega.nz For those who remember MegaUpload which was forced out of business due to copyright violation of videos, etc, this was created by some of the same people (hence New Zealand being the country of origin). But the bottom line is Yahoo is never going to be fixed obviously so this is just one option perhaps.

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    Yeah, like I have reported on another topic, we know when the groups started having major problems.... Dec 5th. So if they just went back to an earlier software version...before Dec 5th...that would most likely fix the issues without a lot of time being spent. Clearly what happened (and I am a programmer) is that someone tried to install a new feature or fix some minor old feature and screwed up the works. Happens all the time so that is forgiveable IMO. What is NOT forgiveable is that they won't try anything apparently to fix the MAJOR problems now with many, many groups

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    110 comments  ·  US Groups » Defects or Bugs  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Tom commented  · 

    STILL screwed up as it has been for several days! If history is the pattern, they will fix this and then 10 days, it will be screwed up yet again!

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    For the MILLIONETH time, photos nor files can be uploaded. Seriously, do you even have ANY programmers who know how to keep software running properly? Most incompetent site EVER! This happens basically once every week or two. Uploading is NOT a new feature. It should NEVER break!

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    Looks like we are at the SAME monthly error we were at 1 month ago. Photos and files can not be posted to Yahoo groups! Most incompetent programmers in the history of software!

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    5 comments  ·  US Groups » Groups management  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    There are several reports with exactly the same problem. As I commented on one of the others, these have to be the worst programmers on the planet! To allow this situation to occur time and time again...last time was just several weeks ago and lasted for like 7 to 10 days, that is unacceptable!

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    58 comments  ·  US Groups » Photos experience  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
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    Same problem here also. I will say that I have added individual photos to already existing albums in another one of my groups. But in one of my groups trying to add a new album with just 15 photos, it just hangs and then get the message Jan quoted.

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    Yeah, I use Google Chrome and same problem...."Phishing attack ahead. Attackers on xa1.yimg.com might try to trick you to steal your information (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards)."

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    I get that sometimes and here is a "workaround" for now. Build a new album like AAATemp or something. You should get the "move to another album" option as an Edit choice when you don't get Delete as one. Choose the move option and send it to that temporary album. Delete it from there. That has never failed for me but yes, that is 2 steps instead of 1 and yes they have a bug. I have not figured out where sometimes the album has that Delete option under Edit and sometimes another album doesn't

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    Having the same problem....only started a few days ago but gets the error you referenced 100% of the time trying to delete files.

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