Scoring - General feedback and requests
General feedback regarding scoring options and requests for new scoring options and categories. Some common category requests are:
- Goal Line Stops
- Penalty Yards
- Customizable Points Allowed Options
- Successful Onside Kicks
- Touchbacks for Kickers
- Dropped passes
- Forced Fumbles (D/STs)
- QB Hits (IDPs)
jpaine
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Bear
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I like this idea if you were thinking of doing fractional scoring for kickers (which is a pretty decent idea). Thanks Curtis.
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Landon
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Punters is a position that could easily be tracker. Net yards, inside 20, blocked punts. It adds a new wrinkle.
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J.K.
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I believe that this becomes too many yardage categories.
If you do anything to it, make it like yardage points for passing, rushing & receiving --- something like each team starting with 6 points and having .01 point subtracted for each yard allowed, or starting with 40 points and having .1 point subtracted for each yard allowed.
Obviously, this plan also works for points scored against the DEF -- each team starting with 10 points and having .25 point subtracted for each point scored.
And it works well with FGs -- 3 points per FG plus .1 point for each yard of distance beyond 18 yards.
And it would cause no problems for the "Negative" leagues (the leagues where players lose points for scoring). Their DEFs could start with zero points and receive .01 point for each yard allowed, or .1 point for each yard allowed. And they could start with zero points and receive .1 point for point scored against them, or 1 point for each point scored against them, or whatever factor the Commish decides to put into the settings.
I expect that a computer can more efficiently crank out scores using a simple equation such as these than go through a series of if-then statements while awarding points, and the fractional points greatly reduce the probablility of a tie in a head-to-head match. -
Jack
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Head Coaches could be scored on Wins/Losses/Successful Challenges, etc.
Punters: Net yards/Inside the 20/Punt Average
Home Field: When I create the schedule at the beginning of the year, I could set home teams up with a 5 point advantage.
These are simple to implement, and give us people that aren't interested in boring/vanilla options. ESPN does this. -
P k
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They already have most of this feature (except the fractional points). Under Scoring and Settings the commissioner can change scoring by range so a 19 yarder isn't the same as a 60 yarder.
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Ashley
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Why would this make any sense at all. There is no place in football that such scoring takes place. Fantasy football is based on the real game with a little incentive in certain areas. A kicker using the mentioned method would make poor teams kicker a lot better than a good teams kicker. Just not realistic.
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Adam
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Totally agree. I had this same thought last season.
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Bryan
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CBSsports fantasy by default has a separate scoring category for every 50 yards the defense allows. It also allows you to modify the ranges and add more ranges to the category.
I would be happy with just a separate scoring for every 50 yards starting at 100. So categories would be
1) < 100
2) 100-149
3) 150-199
4) 200-249
5) 250-299
6) 300-349
7) 350-399
8) 400-449
9) 450-499
10) 500+ -
jim
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that's an interesting idea...i like it except it does kind of reward a team for not succeeding so then you consider kickers from lesser teams which is opposite of 'normal' drafting...having it as an option like you said would be good...generally speaking i like the fantrax.com leagues best...yahoo has more bells and whistles though...like rafi says there should be a base of 3 points plus the tenths
just noticed that this is a MIKE thread lol
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Sc0tt
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thats stupid
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Mike
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@Mike K, I'm aware of the current point system in assigning stagnant point values to yard ranges, but it still doesn't account for a kicker hitting a FG of 60 yards plus. Plus we can all agree there is a huge difference between a kicker hitting a 50 yard field goal and a 59 yarder. The only way to differentiate these two feats is by awarding a tenth of a point for each additional yard.
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Mike K
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While not exactly what you want if you are a commish in a private league you can currently change the point total for Kickers to be a different value based on the kick distance ( 0-19, 20-29, 30-39, 40-49 and 50+ ) in addition to subtracting points for field goals missed in those same ranges. To do this go to Commish Tools then Edit Stat Categories.
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Rafi
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I agree with this. In case some people would want to use this model while still having any FG being rewarded a minimum of 3 points, I would recommend an option to cover that as well.
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Mike
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Brian,
I've been looking for a way to notify Yahoo Fantasy's product development team but their seems like no real way to do so.
The most logical way to score Kickers is to divide the yardage of their field goals by ten. This way an 18 yard field goal is scored as 1.8 points, a 47 yarder is scored as 4.7, and a 63 yarder and 6.3.
There is no reason why FG's between 19 - 39 yards should all be equal 3 points. They already score Running Backs and Wide Receivers this way, why the kicker has not been switched to this model is besides me.
Also, being deducted points for missing a FG is controlled by your league commissioner. You can turn it on or off, so #1 is really not a suggestion that affects all of the Fantasy Football community.
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C.Mark
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all god ideas except #2. How many 60 yard field goals were kicked last year...last decade. That would turn it into a lottery. nobody attempts them til times out mostly in the first half. Totally agree withthe others though and was trying to think something myself. Good job.
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Brian
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Now that I have your attention with that ridiculous statement, I would like to say that kickers could be much more important than they are currently. The problem is that people give 3 points for chip shots that any kicker should make over 95% of the time, and only 5 points for kicks that most kickers can't make. That, and not subtracting for misses is what makes the kicker position pointless. But of course, that can mostly be done with the scoring settings already. Here are a couple additions I would like to make the kicker more relevant in fantasy football.
1. Adding a Kicker "No Miss" Bonus Score
A score for kickers if they miss no field goals under, say, 40 or 50 yards (it can't just be no misses at all, because the good kickers try to break records). This will make kickers more reliable and less random, because kickers with no opportunities will still get some points.2. 60+ yard kicks
The best kickers can make these. Shouldn't they be rewarded for it?3. Intervals of 5 yards instead of 10
The difference in difficulty between a 40 and 49 yard kick or a 50 and 59 yard kick is noteworthy here.I think these changes would make the kicker's actual skill matter. And don't act like there's no difference in any kickers, because their kicking strengths and accuracies at each range are much easier to predict than which offenses will stall the most in the red zone. Thank you for reading an entire rant about kickers.