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General feedback regarding scoring options and requests for new scoring options and categories. Some common category requests are:

  • Goal Line Stops
  • Penalty Yards
  • Customizable Points Allowed Options
  • Successful Onside Kicks
  • Touchbacks for Kickers
  • Dropped passes
  • Forced Fumbles (D/STs)
  • QB Hits (IDPs)
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  • Mike B commented  ·   ·  Report

    Every yard is .1 points. So a 49 yard field goal is worth 4.9 points and a 50 is worth 5 points. Under the current scoring system that 1 yard difference is a whole point, not .1 of a point. ESPN figured this out years ago. Don't be slow to the game yahoo, this is an easy fix.

  • J.K. commented  ·   ·  Report

    Giving a point for a first down sounds good at first glance. However, I think the result would actually be negative. PPR is better. Catching a pass in-bounds is a reception. That's an important accomplishment, especially when the pass is poorly thrown or the coverage is tight.
    I agree with the statement that players who gain nine yards on first and ten do more for their teams than players who gain two yards on second and one.

  • Micah commented  ·   ·  Report

    I think this would be a great option, especially if there is some kind of minimum score (3?) and/or a way to do points for the "make" separate from points for the distance.

  • MaveROCK commented  ·   ·  Report

    I've been in leagues like this before and I'm kinda torn on the stat. On one hand, PIMs in real-life hockey are actually a detriment to the team whose player takes a penalty, which I agree should make them a punishment rather than a reward in fantasy hockey as it is in real hockey. However, everybody in the NHL takes penalties (even Ryan O'Rielly) and it does not seem fair for EVERY player in the NHL to be punished on a weekly basis. As well, using PIMs as a cumulative "positive" category opens the player pool up by allowing many more players to have some type of quantitative value that would either be greatly diminished or non-existent if the PIM were to be a negative stat.

    A change like this would DRASTICALLY alter the landscape of Yahoo! Fantasy Hockey, though. It would change the value of nearly every player in the league and some players' value would be dramatically reduced (Corey Perry comes to mind immediately, as does Hartnell). Players like O'Rielly and St. Louis would actually see their value increase exponentially, whereas Hartnell and Phaneuf would lose massive value because they often take a ton of PIMs. Also, you would lose the need for a "specialty" player in the PIM category (for instance, one guy in my league drafted Sean Avery every single season for his PIMs alone and this happens quite often for at least one or two teams drafting an NHL tough guy for the category domination).

    Personally, when I came from ESPN (who used PIMs as a negative) to Yahoo! it was a major culture shock for me and I was not very happy. However, over the years I am very pleased with PIMs being a "positive" category because it adds another dimension to the stats and gives value to players outside of the pure offensive guys. I don't think it's a good idea having negative categories in fantasy sports because quite frankly, how many fantasy owners want to be PUNISHED in a fake sport? It is a game afterall and we're here to score points, not lose them.

    Obviously, the +/- stat comes to mind, but the fundamental difference there is that it's not STRICTLY a punishment...players have the ability to contribute in a positive manner. I would be hesitant to add any negative-only stat categories because it would probably be more frustrating than exciting or fair...imagine being that Owner who LOSES because Hartnell took a 2-minute tripping minor by taking down Crosby on a breakaway. You'd be more frustrated by LOSING points on the last day than by your opponent GAINING points to beat you in the Championship...

    In my opinion, if your League is unsatisfied with the way PIMs are a reward rather than punishment, I would suggest your League remove it from the weekly statistical categories entirely. If something is a negative, then it shouldn't be included...that would at least solve your issue of losing the Championship on the last day because the opponent received a major penalty.

  • Bobby commented  ·   ·  Report

    I agree, just like the goalie loss category is a negative stat, PIM should be as well

  • Scott commented  ·   ·  Report

    Hat tricks and also OVERTIME game winning goals need to be added as categories for head to head, and also as a stat for points leagues. Having just "game winning goals" isn't good because if the final score is 6-2, why give the guy that scored the 3rd goal extra points? Only OVERTIME winning goals are true "game winning goals"

  • joe wood commented  ·   ·  Report

    Some punters can make or break the game. As long as yahoo doesn't bring in head coach for a position I'm good.

  • Connor commented  ·   ·  Report

    I like this idea a lot. I have wanted penalties drawn added for a couple years now, but this idea is even better because it conveys a player's value more accurately.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    Sure -- Jose should receive a medal for "not commenting on this dumb idea."
    And, Anonymous should lose at least a dozen medals for suggesting this "dumb idea."

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    Shoot out goals, shoot out attempts, shoot out saves, percentages - have to be added...the purpose of fantasy sports is to make games more interesting and add an element of a rooting interest....whether you like the shoot out or not - it's here...let's at least add some excitement to it by including it in the fantasy game

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    I want a medal for not commenting on this dumb idea.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    I would prefer an equation to ten different categories of yardages.
    We use equations for yards gained by passing, rushing, and receiving.
    It should be easy enough to put in an equation for yards allowed by DEFs.

  • Mike Zink commented  ·   ·  Report

    Try for something that makes sense for all public leagues-penalty minutes..They are not a good thing. It's the stupidest thing in fantasy I've ever seen. It's the equivalent of Yahoo reversing the TO(turnover) category in Basketball and making in a benefit to the teams that have the most turnovers. YAY!!!

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    A player who gains nine yards on 1st-&-ten has done much more for his team than a player who gains two yards on 2nd-&-one.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.

    However, i may turn a blind eye if you fix the Season (avg) ranks.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    this is the hottest idea ever! so hot.

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