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General feedback regarding scoring options and requests for new scoring options and categories. Some common category requests are:

  • Goal Line Stops
  • Penalty Yards
  • Customizable Points Allowed Options
  • Successful Onside Kicks
  • Touchbacks for Kickers
  • Dropped passes
  • Forced Fumbles (D/STs)
  • QB Hits (IDPs)
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  • Steve commented  ·   ·  Report

    Honestly, I think this should be an option either way for the commish whether the PIM stat is good or bad. As far as I know it isn't an option. Regardless, I think it opens deep leagues to even more player options. Also, like goalies, it would have an impact at the end of the week where if you were already up (or down, I guess...) in the PIM stat, a team could just bench all their players who are likely to fight. Still, I think it should be a choice.

  • amnesiac commented  ·   ·  Report

    you guys have a slew of stats in the new players' profiles pages, but you should add the TOI/G and PP TOI/G. Would help a lot.

  • James Goode commented  ·   ·  Report

    While I like scoring longer FGs as worth more, I'm not sure that I like the ideas presented here.
    In one of my leagues, we score FGs as:
    Pt.After a TD 1.0 point
    18-19 yards 3.0 points
    20-29 yards 5.5 points
    30-39 yards 8.5 points
    40-49 yards 12.0 points
    50+ yards 16.0 points
    .
    I accept the idea that a 49 yard FG should be worth more than a 40 yard FG.
    However, we use an exponential expansion in the gap.
    The equation for it would be something like: (fantasy points = 1 + 0.1 * yards ** 1.5)
    .
    We also subtract more for missing short FG attempts than for missing long ones.

  • Jim commented  ·   ·  Report

    Lots of QBs complete more than 20 passes in a game.
    I don't see that as being particularly bonus-worthy.

  • Jim commented  ·   ·  Report

    I think that I need to change the wording of the last sentence of my Dec-19 comment on this suggestion.
    I regret saying that a player who moves the ball nine yards on first-and-ten does more than a player who moves the ball one yard on second-and-one.
    My error is: Short yardage specialists don't play on second-and-one.
    They are likely on the field for third-and-one and for fourth-and-one, but they are rarely used on second-and-one because the team is generally going for more yardage than the minimum one yard needed for a first.
    I'll try to think about comments longer before posting them in the future.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    Maybe Yahoo could just give a medal to players each time they make a first down. I'd rather see the medals go there than to continue cluttering up my Yahoo account.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    The Nov.30 comment from Anonymous seems sensible for the default.
    Then, the commish of any private league should be able to modify it as he (or the league) desires.

  • Me Knows commented  ·   ·  Report

    I don't see how giving credit for making a first down would increase the value of goal line backs.
    I easily understand that goal line backs (short yardage specialists) are the guys often used for third & one and fourth & one situations. However, most first downs are made by other players. Giving credit for first downs would actually decrease the Relative-Value of goal line backs.
    The players who would benefit most from the change would be QBs and possession receivers.

  • Me Knows commented  ·   ·  Report

    This idea should be easy enough to implement. The stats needed are readily available. All Yahoo needs to do is to come up with good categories for scoring.
    Actually, I believe that good-equations-for-scoring would be the better way to go.
    And, I believe that this position should be added only in private leagues. The newbies in public leagues probably need to learn the basics of the game before being confronted by this position.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    Continuing with the logic of valuing plays which make a first down above other plays, we obviously should change our scoring for tackles. We should give a bonus to a defensive player who tackles an opponent before he makes a first down instead of after he makes it. And we should give a bonus to DEF teams which hold the offense to a FG rather than a TD. Yup, this kind of thinking is crazy, but no more crazy than giving a bonus for making a first down.
    .
    Regarding the player who catches a screen pass and is then tackled for a loss, he probably deserves the bonus for catching a pass. The defense maybe should be rewarded with a bonus for tackling him for a loss. Often, defenses are good at stopping offensive plays. And often, just being able to catch a pass against a good defense is quite an accomplishment. Perhaps a penalty should be assessed against the QB for throwing the pass in that situation -- or maybe it is already assessed in that the lost yardage will be reflected in the QB's passing yards for the game. Further, the lost yardage will be reflected in the receiver's yards for the game. But, the receiver must catch the ball before he can start running with it, and the fact that he managed to catch the ball should be rewarded.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    Seriously, just have the Commish of your league put in a bonus for each pass completion. That way, a QB who completes 19 passes scores almost as much as a QB who completes 20 passes, and a QB who completes 21 passes scores a little more, and ...
    It's so much more fair that way.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    And, of course, we need a bonus for more than 15 rush attempts & a bonus for more than 3 sacks by a D player & a bonus for kicking more than 3 FGs in a game & a bonus for returning more than 3 punts in a game & a bonus for more than 3 passes defended & and a bonus for more than 8 tackles & and a bonus for the first player in the game to make a first down & and a bonus for the player who makes the first tackle & and a bonus for each kick-off which goes through the end zone & and a bonus for suggesting a new medal category & and a bonus for ...

  • Jim commented  ·   ·  Report

    If the goal of the offense on second-and-one is to get a first down, then why do teams so often throw a deep pass in that situation (or any second-and-short situation)?
    Plainly, the team expects that it can get a first down on third-and-one. So, it uses second-and-short as a good play to gamble with a deep pass or a screen pass or some other such higher-risk, higher-potential play.
    The player who moved the ball nine yards on first-and-ten did more for the team than the player who moved the ball one yard on second-and-one.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    I disagree with "Me". The primary goal of the second or third down play is to get the first down and move the chains. That player should be rewarded.

  • DPSPDX commented  ·   ·  Report

    Not a fan of this. First downs inherently reward the offense with more chances to score points. Seems too much of a reward to give extra pts for 1st down plays. Plus I agree with comments below

  • James commented  ·   ·  Report

    I've read many ideas in these suggestion pages which would make a league "distinctive." Good ideas include giving a bonus to special teams (DEFs) which recover an on-side kick, adding punters, giving extra credit to 60+ yard FGs, changing a few of the scoring categories to equations, having every team play every team each week instead of just one team per week, and giving a bonus to DEFs which hold an opponent to less than 50 yards (or 100 yards) offense.
    Every one of those ideas sounds more useful to me than giving a bonus point for making a first down. I'd rather see yards gained become worth more than giving a bonus for making a first down.

  • Kyle Arnott commented  ·   ·  Report

    Definitely agree... if a kicker goes out and nails a 64 yard field goal breaking the all-time record it should be worth more points than a 50 yard field goal, which is routine these days. Right now there is no option for this, everything 50+ yards is worth the same.

  • Me Knows commented  ·   ·  Report

    Ponder the following.
    It’s first and ten and a receiver runs a 9-yard out route, makes the catch and is immediately tackled. The player did something well. It's now second and one. The team now has two chances (maybe three chances) to gain one more yard. It can afford to take a shot at a deep pass play. It can try almost anything on second and one.
    If a player then succeeds on a short gain (like one or two yards), the player really doesn't deserve a specil bonus for making a first down. Rather, the player who gained nine yards on first down -- and set-up the excellent situation of a second and one deserves the primary credit.

  • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Report

    I think any field goal up to thirty yards should be 3 points, but any field goal kicked longer than thirty yards should be fractional. For instance, Matt Prater kicked a 64 yard field goal. In my opinion, that should have been 6.4 points.

  • James commented  ·   ·  Report

    Klondike should receive a medal for posting a comment which contains ****, and I should also.

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